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moiety: lol kidding ThickAsThieves XD
mircea_popescu: whoa you ignored the girl ? you faggot!
moiety: is that why you ignored me ThickAsThieves?!
ThickAsThieves: lemme finish this coffee...
moiety: hi mircea_popescu lol catching up? and nope they should go find it and read it in the first place.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i've been extremely irc promiscuous this year.
herbijudlestoids: well lucky my entire workflow is encompassed by terminal, firefox, ssh, rdesktop and i dont notice ;)
mircea_popescu: it's not just the addressable memory pool size that counts.
mircea_popescu: you know doing that actually slows it down because adressing and stuff ?
herbijudlestoids: its a thinkpad x230, my bebbeh, i love it
mircea_popescu: o you mean the cpu is 64bit but you're using a 32bit os ?
herbijudlestoids: well, the lappy only has 4gb of ram, so why bother?
mircea_popescu: but inasmuch as both you and your referrer get 5 btc, it could be argued the new account only costs 20 with a referrer. anyway.
mircea_popescu: moiety the idea is in http://mpex.co/faq.html#13 and i didn't say anything because what am i to do, keep pasting the faq ?
herbijudlestoids: i should just get the lil rig back up and running
herbijudlestoids: i will have to recompile altcoind from source since i dont have 64bit installed on this laptop
herbijudlestoids: ah ok, solo mining is not hard it seems, i just point cgminer to the altcoind
mircea_popescu: kinda expensive by now for many tastes.
ThickAsThieves: herb i dunno how diff to set up mining, the source isn't much different other than some logos and stuff changed
ThickAsThieves: can we tell people, don't play on testnet, play on Altcoin!
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids think of it this way : all the work you do is training.
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: ah ok, how much work do i need to do to get these lil buggers to mine on it?
mircea_popescu: it's one of those age old stories in industry "ah, who's ever gonna know" then 2 years later... bam someone burntests your shit on a large scale
ThickAsThieves: i'll post link to main website today
ThickAsThieves: <herbijudlestoids> mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out -- source is in the thread
mircea_popescu: yeah actually, the happenstance of btc and the particular usb implementation some miner manufacturers happened to use really exposed a lot of crap the usb manufacturers were hiding under the rug for years
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out, its hard for me to use my little ASICs to do anything except with cgminer
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i had a small mining rig, 1.6GH/s but one day my USB hub died and difficulty was going up so i never bothered to restore the setup...tonight i thought i would plug it back in for ATC
mircea_popescu: ow crap, now i'm talking to ignored people off the chatlog.
mircea_popescu: theo are you like retarded ? about a dozen people in this room found me just fine wtf.
herbijudlestoids: im on the coinminer.net pool...just detected a new block a few mins ago
herbijudlestoids: i am mining teh altcoin
herbijudlestoids: jurov: err, goto mpex.co, click on S.MPOE, top of the page is "Monthly statements available here"
jurov: on the other hand, i do link btcalpha from the manual
jurov: tbh, it's not easy to discover, i used http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ too
herbijudlestoids: theo: lol so basically you required to be spoonfed info which is available on mpex directly
theo: that was what i was refering to and that provided a much more indepth view into what was mentioned on a forum
theo: thank you for the links jurov
theo: I don't have an opinion as of yet and am asking questions from those who seem to be knowledgeable
jurov: theo then ask for information, not for opinions. there *is* info.
theo: No herbi maybe i am trying to make a informed opinion on these exchanges based on limited information.
ozbot: MPOE, March 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov: http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/ no it was this
ozbot: MPOE, April 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov: http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-april-2013-statement/ theo you mean this?
theo: Well to be honest i don't think he has done amazingly well what with the securities options someone in a post said that he had to pay out pretty much his whole years profits as people bet on the rising price and he had to pay / she
herbijudlestoids: youll be rich in no time
herbijudlestoids: theo: what i suggest is if you think the existing thing has deficiencies that you can overcome, make your own thing and people will flock to it
herbijudlestoids: jurov: i dont think he has fully thought it through, he just sees some smalltime webservice which lets poncy little stocks that go nowhere list
jurov: herbijudlestoids: you understood what theo has in mind?
jurov: theo your text was too long, got cut on "wanted charge a additio"
herbijudlestoids: theo: i dont miss any idea. not everyone needs a seat on the exchange. you do not understand the concept of an exchange.
theo: though thats just me
theo: Well i think you do miss some idea. The majority of stocks sold on the exchanges like Dow Jones or Nasdaq are used through brokerages because the majority of people do not have the technical know how on how to use a system or have the time to learn how its used. So if I were making a exchange i would do an idea of both providing one like his, with the ability to be your own brokerage and hence if people wanted charge a additio
herbijudlestoids: hell give you a seat on the exchange for 30BTC
herbijudlestoids: so? the frontend has really nothing to do with it, nor his personal skills
herbijudlestoids: users of the system interact with the exchange through brokerage
herbijudlestoids: the frontend is irrelevent to the end user and in those cases is absolutely not exposed
herbijudlestoids: MPEX is conceptually equivalent to a large scale exchange on the order of NYSE or CME
herbijudlestoids: thats because you think like a very small fish
theo: Alright thank's :). If i wanted to build a exchange i think i would touch up on it from MPEX or at least the front end lol. And also his personal skills
herbijudlestoids: theo: no specific opinion, tho if i wanted to build an exchange it would look more like mpex and less like havelock
theo: whats your opinion herbi? are you also of the opinion that havelock will crumble and fall? The only reason i have some faith in havelock is there investment of SFI which was able to raise 2 million
herbijudlestoids: theo: there have been some good examples shown iirc, you can trawl the logs if you wish
theo: Ok thank you herbu
theo: jurov i think thats a bit backwards as they do have standards. Otherwise they would have a fuck load more IPO as they reject a lot as well.
herbijudlestoids: they list "businesses", MPex prides itself on only listing what it deems to actually have a business model
jurov: because havelock does not uphold any standards and it's up to issuers. i can't say that clearer
theo: Ok so not actually to do with legal reasons etc?
herbijudlestoids: theo: i think the general perception around here is they are in it for the hype, ergo its unsustainable
theo: I was asking about havelock and MPEX. Why jurov though that havelock would go down like so many of the other security exchanges
herbijudlestoids: theo: what advice did you want from these dicks
jurov: but you said you're in for medium to long term.. or was it a side nmote,, too?
theo: And furthering that Mass media is what has driven bitcoin to the point it is. If reddit hadn't started accepting it when they did i betchya we would not be at this point yet
theo: Really it is irreleveant? how about go look at the company who made BTCtrader performed on the stock market the day they announced there beta ended? or how about the casino company who announced they were making a exchange? both stocks went up by 5-10% in a single day thats called mass media arround BTC affecting the world
jurov: what kind of advice did you want? i say, mass media is irrelevant when coming to btc investment, you call me idiot
theo: Actually there is a lot, no good advice is free usually
kakobrekla: no free advice when it comes to money
theo: I didn't say you were, i just thought people would actually be nice and maybe give advice instead of being dicks
kakobrekla: we are not here to convince you into anything
theo: how does one hyperventilate on the internet?
jurov: no need to hyperventilate
theo: now your being a real dick so putting a great vibe out for your company thanks for making sure i tell everyone never to use yours :)
theo: Yawn. I came on here looking for good info and maybe a nice convo, all your providing is arguments and yes you did make a "jab" Now we are arguing semantics for no reason. I asked your's / anyone elses advice on havelock and MPEX and all i got was a hey you should use my company as thats a hefty fee
jurov: so it's your side noted against my "jabs" then
theo: I used the IPO of SFI as reasoning and side noted that there companies had recieved mass media.
theo: I didn't use that as any reasoning idiot read back
jurov: i took that almost as joke
theo: that to me is a jab at me, and many would take it as such
theo: <jurov> did you invest into doge, then? it has mass media powers\
theo: So right now it seems more like your making fun of my questions and what i think then providing any reasoning other then MPEX has been there ages and you should use my company to trade on it for my profit. Seriously great IRC.
theo: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.php updated each month by there company
theo: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2SWZWkGJ1V3UEo0Q0lESk5nd0k&usp=sharing the google doc they have. Updated twice a month
theo: bi-monthly they update the google doc
kakobrekla: that might explain "CasinoBitcoin is trading at 27 years of profits"
theo: and the only 3 i have are the ones that seem to be transperent and have good communication.
theo: there are only 3 companies i invest in there
jurov: yes, that's one.
theo: and never would thats a different type of investing
jurov: did you invest into doge, then? it has mass media powers