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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, but my fear is, how much can be trusted in the "data" of someone so fundamentally confused. can one who can't count keep a useful count of anything ?
mircea_popescu: Naphex doesn't make any sense does it.
mircea_popescu: 14:16:06 mats_cd03: kakobrekla: links on log1.b-a direct to log.b-a, which is down << umm no they don't ?
TomServo: mircea_popescu: can't say I recall that exact scenario - but I see your point. Better not be another 950 years of this BS though!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol! can't help but wonder what he'd answer.
bounce: apparently there wasn't a people person around who could find and organise the people to cook up bitcoin; needed a lone engineer to lay the ground work.
mircea_popescu: five fucking years and a horde of jackals, all because there isn't nor apparently can there be a god out there to whom you pray and who gives orders adequately.
asciilifeform: i expect that the truly serious folks won't even touch my hardware, but recreate it from spec...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'll do something-or-other for your foundation thing, so long as it doesn't involve actual work
mod6: i think it did say that at one point. i don't have my previous revisions handy atm.
TomServo: asciilifeform: This is only for wireless clients correct? Though, why wouldn't they also do the same to wired customers?
Naphex: "Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand'"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: one of us must do the deed ? ... i'd just rather stand on bluematt's shoulders << wasn't talking about the auto-builder. rather, the use of brain to evaluate patches.
jurov: but it goes against means of "offline" delivery where you aren't certain stuff went through
jurov: don't see why not
asciilifeform: i cannot venture to guess about the author's thought process. perhaps there wasn't one.
bounce: sure. but the question remains, why have a booster at all? can't you run the thing off 5V directly?
asciilifeform: bounce: he boosts the 3v from the regulator. but doesn't matter.
ben_vulpes: although i have a hard time imaginging which customers of a bezzletron service would touch btc. buying a loss for the taxbooks doesn't make much sense with the blackcash.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: if bluematt (who was he?) doesn't appear - one of us must do the deed ? << i have jenkins running with the blob locally, i'd just rather stand on bluematt's shoulders
CheckDavid: I don't work in security so :)
Naphex: so if you're running openssl it shouldn't go down below 200 bytes of available entropy
adlai: "dumb"? doesn't this just mean you can treat it as providing less entropy than the number of bits it spits out?
RagnarDanneskjol: ''Our generator makes random streams of bytes - they're generated by random quantum processes and/or thermal noise - they're don't however present a perfectly randomly distributed bit stream''
punkman: so quartz tube doesn't burn?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: listen, if smart people don't fuck whores, the poor girls are left with a very poor impression of maledom << was reminded of this as i watched the sopranos today.
mircea_popescu: punkman see your pms, apparently ppl can't go from deeds to privkey ?
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean the world didn't start a day before i was born ?!?!!?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they didn't start as one. but anyway, either their cash runs out in a few months or it does not.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't suspect the guy actually acts rationally.
undata: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/03/article-2780022-1DBFAFC600000578-405_634x422.jpg << doesn't he have a bit of a weird flush to him?
mircea_popescu: as stupid as possible, granted. once that is granted, nothing else can further be achieved. he can't be anything "as much as possible" hence.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if bluematt (who was he?) doesn't appear - one of us must do the deed ?
hanbot: i don't mind idiots experimenting on themselves, but the access to podium has gotta go.
thestringpuller: Jesus these idiots who don't know how to feed themselves are starting to just baffle me.
ben_vulpes: the thing isn't actually all that impossible to reason about
decimation: ben_vulpes: is the latest patch still yours? I haven't seen mention of others
decimation: here's 32 control characters that you can't use.
mircea_popescu: you can't even rely on /n staying put
asciilifeform: if i can't meta-object, it's retarded
mircea_popescu: BUT at least back when they were making django they weren't making systemd
asciilifeform can't picture 'django' without picturing the tarantino film
mircea_popescu: fortunately, i don't scale.
mircea_popescu: stop making special characters yo. it doesn't scale.
asciilifeform: you still couldn't steal my monyz << reminds me of all the folks with misaligned heads on their floppy drives
mircea_popescu: because if i were to use it, and you did get my pw... you still couldn't steal my monyz ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` which works just as well, as i don't,
nubbins`: well i guess you just can't trust random web pages to generate your brainwallets ;D
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal it's the dump of js as loaded on my system, because somehow it doesn't come to the same results as other people here.
nubbins`: t
mircea_popescu: i guess it helps that i just wasn't using braindamage.org anyway
mircea_popescu: it can't be the case it can hash here but not there, my cpu
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i don't get it ?
mod6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-F5NKAMdFc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m32s
nubbins`: doing an additional base58 doesn't produce BXZKQx2iLYyRpUCmdWCqJBvgUdvqWH4EE8TV1ns3pxLZ
nubbins`: but i don't know how to get from the second shasum to that
asciilifeform: 'Asked what had happened to the $8.8bn he replied: "I have no idea. I can't tell you whether or not the money went to the right things or didn't - nor do I actually think it's important."'
nubbins`: okay, i just wasn't stripping newline from eof
thestringpuller: Didn't a shipping container with 100 billion or so get lost in Iraq in the early 2000's as well?
thestringpuller: mod6: i actually had a leagal drink for the billinium <<< i was just growing pubes. now I don't feel quite so old.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "there's no point getting in the wot, i have real world friends" << WoT isn't Facebook...*sigh*
asciilifeform: hasn't happened, afaik.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how a case can be different from any other in a system where "one can make any declaration"
nubbins`: er yeah, i don't get the same shasum as you at all
mircea_popescu: "don't work" is the best error message, after... anything else.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu yeah and there's something more to it than that, because instructions as given don't work
nubbins`: TheNewDeal i'm just trying to verify one of these things but it's hard if i don't know the process
Duffer1: panic attacks areen't fun
decimation: yeah most pendulum clocks didn't do well in a swaying ship
mircea_popescu: people can reconstruct tits and virginity. you telling me they can't remake a board edge ?
asciilifeform: those aren't the problem
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to be exw
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 19:19:30; asciilifeform: except - they aren't banning monsanto garbage. they're banning 'gmo.'
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 as in, didn't understand taleb's point ? or as in what ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla: question if anyone can help - is there a genuine security reason for someone to refuse to disclose how they generate entropy for the private keys contained in their physical bitcoin coin products? << not really, no. other than "we don't have a clue how it's done but this is sekoority and so being mysterious is the next best thing"
mats_cd03: nvm paywalled, don't click that
mircea_popescu: apple it's what yahoo has aspired at all these years. if they had any sense, they wouldn't have hired melissa no clue, they'd have hired jobs back then
mircea_popescu: don't forget that. apple isn't a tech company, it's a media company.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> who in his right mind would consider 'apple', for instance, if microshit did not exist << i don't run a windows machine. for me ms might as well not exist. however, i did get apple powered tablet to check out their game marketplace.
decimation: they didn't teach lisp in those days
undata: because people are followers and it wasn't an informed decision
asciilifeform still can't grasp how a programming system having 'global interpreter lock' became a beloved tool
Adlai: we got stuck on how to implement a MOP for sheeple, and it hasn't seen enough use for people to miss it... but it's a rather faithful translation of MOPless CLOS
asciilifeform: doesn't mean this 'nessie' isn't alive and well in some loch.
bounce: quite sure that if there wasn't OOP they'd've thought of something else to write crap code in
bounce doesn't mind OOP. there's some good ideas in there, even if most practitioners didn't get it.
decimation: yeah, I don't get how that helps
nubbins`: <asciilifeform> he can swear to his gods that he didn't make copies, but what kind of proof could possibly suffice as proof to a skeptic ? <<< probably no more than a few days of torture
Adlai didn't know, but isn't surprised
Adlai: if there were only one gender, "gender" the concept wouldn't exist
mircea_popescu: yes it wouldn't be women lol
bounce: no, it wouldn't. wouldn't be women either.
decimation: so zero ----- becomes - or 't'
thestringpuller: I don't like it when mircea_popescu yells.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh i don't even agree. fuck all this subtlety of amuk idiocy. a character, its encoding, the representation thereof and its numeric value are all THE SAME THING. forever.
mircea_popescu: dude omg. not like he didn't say and get quoted x times.
asciilifeform: didn't we do this already
mircea_popescu: dude it grows 100% a year haven't you heard ?
decimation: you are stuck with 8 bits if you don't want to constantly guess at endianness
jurov: That's just basic classical economics. Scammers don't last long in the Bitcoin ecosystem.