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ThickAsThieves: full
text for
the item is "Bitcoin will continue
to attract more people as a store of value and a speculative investment asset. I predict
that
the value of Bitcoin still has
the potential
to double by
the same
time next year. But I believe it will have a hard
time becoming mainstream as a currency, due
to its expected continued volatility amidst regulation authorities and governments
Duffer1: 4. we're crapping our pants over here, please don't do
to us what netflix did
to blockbuster
mircea_popescu: some currencies out
there are a bitcoin, if a very primitive sort and for short intervals.
ThickAsThieves: 4. Bitcoin will continue
to gain ground (but not as a currency)
mircea_popescu: course
the serious rapists would just start carrying strap-ons, but what's a feminist
to know of economy
ozbot: crisader comments on
The REAL Altcoin
mircea_popescu: jurov: automatically << fie upon
that word.
think of it, gpg keypairs are not generated "automatically"
deadweasel: yea,
those decisions
tend
to make
themselves, in
time.
mircea_popescu: afaik
they haven't yet decided whether
they wish
to have a future as
the irc network where bitcoin happens or would rather not have any future at all.
mircea_popescu: it's a good reserve power anyway, if we ever need
to make our own irc network.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel which explains why we're not doing i
tyet :D
deadweasel: in fact, mp, why not start your own IRCnet?
Then you could
throttle everything at will.
ThickAsThieves: Klout, controversial service
that measured online 'influence,' reportedly being acquired for $100 million
deadweasel: freenode doesn't
take donations anymore, iirc
mircea_popescu: even so. you can just make it "donate 0.10000586" btc
to #freenode's btc addy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform experimentally, you don't need
that much code because not
that many people will be paying anyway.
mircea_popescu: no wait i was wrong, it did 60k lines in a month. so about like
this
thing.
ozbot: O luna de #trilema, prin ochii lu’ gribble pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: i made
trilema +m at some point in 2012 when i was sick of
the romanians' drivel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: imagine if every byte you
threw in
this channel cost a few satoshi. << eventually
the chan will work like mpex, +m and it costs w/e
to have voice.
mircea_popescu: jurov: it's called polyamory << don't be silly,
that's not decentralised love,
that's just love without arbitrary barriers
to entry.
ozbot: Another JPMorgan Banker Dies, 37 Year Old Executive Director Of Program
Trading | Zero Hedge
freztek: he only came in here
to shout assbot.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.43596731 BTC
to 1`497 shares, 95923 satoshi per share
nubbins`: "i can probably find someone
to meet you in most major cities. other
than quebec."
nubbins`: just got a forum PM for a guy looking
to do a face-to-face casascius-for-cash
trade
jurov: btw, use electrum
then. one passphrase forever.
jurov: then it ends
the same
jurov: ah so. but it's
the same with pgp. if you swet expiry date as
they recommend
benkay: addresses are spun up routinely. gpg keys should be
treated differently.
jurov: i have seen 120MB wallet in
the wild, did not count how many addies
benkay: if you "ask"
the client for more
than
that number of receipt addresses, your old backups become stale.
Apocalyptic: and
the "100" figure is just
the default keypoolsize
jurov: of course it's not limited, just increase
the pool and it refills
benkay: iirc, wallets are written
to disk with
the next hundred receipt addresses
benkay: not "wiped" no but one can exceed
the 100 pregenerated addresses
benkay: a gpg keypair is meant
to endure
through many many uses.
jurov: orly? afaik
they ware never wiped out from
the wallet
benkay: but btc addresses are generated and
thrown away regularly in
the satoshi client.
Apocalyptic: jurov, he didn't meant ephemeral in
that way
jurov: either you backup it and risk it will leak (or
that you forget
the passphrase)
benkay: fully granted
that
they're both just bits on disk.
benkay: jurov:
that's a little pedantic, neh?
jurov: nekay, gpg key is no less ephemeral
than bitcoin
benkay: this is one of
the reasons I want a cardano.
benkay: operational security is one of
those
things
that can be done entirely incorrectly and feel so right
to
the end-user.
assbot: Last
trade for AM1 on HAVELOCK was at 0.5499999 BTC [+]
pankkake: well actually you don't sign
the key, you sign an identity (name+mail usually)
pankkake: bitcoin's encryption choices come from
the need
to have small outputs
too, gpg doesn't and can
thus do a lot of other
things
benkay: what about btc-key based decryption of messages? do we have
this yet? i've never looked for
the functionality.
benkay: maybe poorly, but nowhere near as poorly as
those in
the wild for btc message signing.
benkay: btc keypairs are ephemeral. gpg has a whole
toolchain around
the use-cases for crypto
that have, you know, actually been
thought
through.
benkay: the answer
to your question is yes,
ThickAsThieves.
pankkake: and you're stuck with
that priv/pub key forever
pankkake: you can use it,
there's just no advantage in using it
benkay: just because
there's a keypair in
there doesn't mean one should use it.
Apocalyptic: to me it comes unatural
to use btc-privkey for auth purposes
pankkake: supports revocation,
too. basically bitcoin signatures are "lower level", you have a public/private key and
that's it
Apocalyptic: why would people use
that whereas
there is a GPG identity system based exactly for
that purpose, much older and wider spread
pankkake: I was
thinking of generating GPG contracts for
trades etc.,
the whole
thing
pankkake: yes, why not. but it's not especially friendlier, you have
to copy paste etc.
pankkake: but
things like openpgpjs are not secure
benkay: your barrier is still
the GPG part. no amout of user-friendliness is going
to get past
the challenges most internet users will have with gpg authentication.
pankkake: eh, a few months ago, I was looking for something
to write, and a guy
told me "make otc user friendly"
benkay: receive and process response
to challenge, return "yes" or "no"
to service who's curious about a particular login
ThickAsThieves: make like Wotsy or whatever, and use it for auth all over
the web