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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the essence is, some people have a fundamental but unspoken disagreement with the basic premise behind mining. <<< exactly.
herbijudlestoids: and that anyone should be able to mine some coins
herbijudlestoids: they feel that ASICS are "unfair"
herbijudlestoids: asciilifeform: i think its stupider than that
asciilifeform: or their phriends
asciilifeform: i.e. they want to parcel out new coin to warm bodies
asciilifeform: the essence is, some people have a fundamental but unspoken disagreement with the basic premise behind mining.
pankkake: I remember when deepbit was the big bad
BingoBoingo: moiety: How about heads or tails (knowing I'd prefer black)
mircea_popescu: derp. wasn't it btcguild that had 40%ish back in feb 2013 ?
mircea_popescu: "Now that Bitcoin computational power is handled almost entirely by large data centers, the currency has rapidly changed from a distributed, decentralized currency, to one that is much more centralized and vulnerable. Companies such as Cex.io are routinely hitting 40% PoW computational power on a daily basis, and will soon be able to perform 51% attacks at will, if they so choose."
pankkake: it's actually worse, being asic proof makes you vulnerable to botnets, supercomputers, clouds, anything you can rent for CHEAP
herbijudlestoids: its like being proud that any small actor with $5million can destroy your coin
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids welcome to the club.
herbijudlestoids: i really dont understand what everyone seems to think the value of ASIC proofing a network is
BingoBoingo: moiety: Fuck it, I'm drunk. Not lose to namworld drunk, but kind of drunk.
asciilifeform: no crapartist seems to resist those
asciilifeform: pankkake: what's with the obligatory faux-gold-coin pics, anyway
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Troll the imposter coin.
BingoBoingo: moiety: Heads or tails?
asciilifeform: i'll take a raincheck. about to fall asleep.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: can you play me and moiety in a simul or how do we split this demand?
moiety: play me then BingoBoingo
moiety: has anyone tried chess 2?
asciilifeform: i'm one of those bozos who 'graduated' to Go.
BingoBoingo: moiety: BSD isn't too different. If you take that route O'Reilley has a minature verion of their sysadmin essentials book which would be valuable.
moiety: c'mon you just gave me the way to two, lets not blow them up mircea_popescu
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: there's a lot of them
mircea_popescu: what was the cmd bomb for windows ?
moiety: check me oot with ma two wee cmds!
BingoBoingo: moiety: If that is the case just skip linux and go to a BSD or Gentoo
moiety: and i tried to get bitchx to work talking of irc but really failed with that.
moiety: i am still at the same position as that day BingoBoingo. I can still see the linux CDs on top of my pc. I just never used them yet
asciilifeform: probabilistic algo. also quite possible that it will never converge (i.e. nothing useful hashes to fooXXXX... where foo is the vanity string)
mike_c: benkay: yes, i just don't think a reference implementation counts as well defined. so TCP_KEEPALIVE is set to 100. why? was that picked intellignetly, randomly, or it doesn't really fking matter? you don't know from implementation.
BingoBoingo: moiety: I feel lied to. You told me months ago you were linuxing. Back when you adopted smuxi as your IRC client
mircea_popescu: ctrl-alt-tit should be a shocker then.
herbijudlestoids: moiety: Start => Run => type "cmd", hit enter
moiety: no, never got to linuxing
BingoBoingo: moiety: I thought you moved past Windows.
moiety: omg you can get multiple cmds? i love this thing more every day
moiety: you know I'm still mining my vanitygen and it's at 96.7%... can i still use my cmd window for something else while it's doing that? (sorry i know it's probably glaringly obvious)
mircea_popescu: benkay totally nobody;s using it.
coingenuity: BingoBoingo: mexico is all fucked up, libertads are a pain to get
benkay: mike_c: using and extending the protocol is a non-starter right now. first we need a rock-solid, well-defined thing.
mircea_popescu: what's the minimum dust atm ? 54300 ?
mike_c: herbijudlestoids: go find sturles. he sells small amounts of btc to help people establish wot.
BingoBoingo: coingenuity: Can you get a quote on 10 oz libertads to retile my bathroom yet?>
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: ok is there some minimum youd consider? i have more but in immature blocks. willing to wait
mircea_popescu: i guess ima wait for the atc0x hack then
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This offer isn't for you then. I wrote it for the Dogers.
KRS-One: I could put my dick out there and gt a few bucks for it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There'a actually barely anything on the book preventing 10,000 satoshis as well though
KRS-One: of course becase there isnt any demand or volume
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There is barely anything stoping 645 from happening
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: You forget the part where you could buy the ATC
BingoBoingo: After the time it takes to withdraw 27500 ATC from Openex I'd be willing to sell it for the same 645 satoshi bid I have nao.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids listen, a 5k satoshi tx is like... impossible to even propagate.
mike_c: s.nsa went cheap today. somebody got a great deal.
herbijudlestoids: i couldve just taken a no :)
herbijudlestoids: so the answer is no. nobody is willing to purchase a small amount of ATC off me for the purpose of establishing my trust on WoT
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I didn't think anyone on this channel was a virgin
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: and how the f am i supposed to sell other shit on -otc without a WoT rating?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo he's not a virgin, so there's the end of that.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Then maybe trade something other than an altcoin?
herbijudlestoids: since you guys all love the fucken WoT
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: wut? all i am trying to do is establish some WoT creds
mike_c: benkay: yes, i was just saying it is insufficient. it describes the process, but does not help you extend it or use it because you don't know any of the rationale. we worked the point over pretty good about an hour ago :)
mircea_popescu: 56 ?! cmon, i can't make a tx that small.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: No, we are discussing constraints of the system.
BingoBoingo: benkay: You ever play chess. I think you could beat me soundly
herbijudlestoids: ok...whatever...ill take the ask, i dont really care about the price
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: And we are talking pricing. Unless you do like the candy shop and package the atc with a teddy bear, there is no room for a premium to be demanded.
benkay: mike_c: are you satisfied with <asciilifeform> the only truly unambiguous definition of a computation is the
herbijudlestoids: dude we are talking 56 of them, not 5,600,000
BingoBoingo: ATC hasn't traded at the midpoint on Openex though. It has traded at the asks
herbijudlestoids: not really looking for anything except as a mechanism to get into WoT usefully
herbijudlestoids: sell for the midpoint between bid/ask on openex
herbijudlestoids: i have 56 of them which are mature enough to transfer
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I might be willing to sell ATC at the right price, but my drunk ass isn't buying.
mircea_popescu: it's wonderbread. i wouldn't use it and i don't agree it's bread. you could say this is me being elitist, you could devise some tests of breadess wonderbread passes
herbijudlestoids: would any of you sirs be interested in purchasing a small amount of ATC off me, for the sole purpose of increasing my WoT rating from 0?
herbijudlestoids: maybe. just trying to understand your "unusable" comment.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: im not hacking into your wallet because i feel drained and empty whenever i hear it talk?
herbijudlestoids: i have a friend who may be interested, he loves teh chezz, online etc...dunno about text based but i assume he would be into it
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids for the same reason you're not fucking all the floozies in your town right now.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: How about pick head or tails?
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: sorry dude i am just recovering from some illness and about to go full pelt into a bunch of work related things as we are growing rapidly now...you want someone with more free time :)
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I just hate games like when truffles annoyed me into playing him while I was sober.
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: No. You just said you play poorly so taking you at face value I want to know if you have a stronger color, which might make the game more interesting.
pankkake: herbijudlestoids: that seems like a typical BingoBoingo trick yes
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Davout is also been asking if he can get a late entry into the round robin.
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: not particularly...is this one of those trick questions where you psychologically evluate my expertise as a player with a simple one liner?
BingoBoingo: Twas on the night I almost finished a handle of Vodka
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: As far as the tournament you spec'd goes my only credited loss is to namworld.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: not sure i understand still, possibly retard serum levels still too high, but if its not secure or whatever, how come im not haxing into your walletz right now
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: so the bitcoind/bitcoin-qt implementation cannot be used for its intended purpose of sending/receiving/storing bitcoin blockchain whatevers
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo has been looking for someone to beat ever since truffles ran off
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Do you know Algebraic notation well enough to play in text?
herbijudlestoids: from a development perspective? as in unusable to modify/update the code?