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MisterE: buy a Tesla: What happens when a Tesla Model S gets rear ended? http://t.co/GgEaFTKKdZ
ThickAsThieves: jurov when comes the ATC Coinroll?
ThickAsThieves: care to share?
Bunnyh: Luke-Jr: the correct reward would be 512 coins in this case, and eloipool mostly generated blocks with that amount
MisterE: and to me :p
ThickAsThieves: might wanna point out we arent talkin bout btc to luke
Bunnyh: 50 is the initial btc reward and eloipool is designed for btc, so wouldn't be too surprising...
Bunnyh: Luke-Jr: can you think of any reason why eloipool would suddenly generate a 50 coin block reward instead of the actual amount that should be generated?
ThickAsThieves: happens to me a lot when pushing shares to people
ThickAsThieves: and then triggers CF
ThickAsThieves: there's something buggy in the code i think
Evolyn: sometimes the site loads, yes, but having trouble most of time, and cloudflare shows me offline version all time
Bunnyh: it was just a continuous run and those 50 ATC blocks happened randomly, spaced with dozens of normal blocks
Bunnyh: so the bug could very well be in eloipool or my eloipool config
mircea_popescu: oops i mean topace
mircea_popescu: you can prolly ask toffoo
mircea_popescu: <Bunnyh> can't you generate less than the allowed block reward + fees in btc too? or would that be rejected by other nodes? << you can
Vexual: get you 0.01 back tat
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: that looks like an error code tho
ThickAsThieves: that's the only one
ThickAsThieves: dunno if that is of interest
agorecki: What's the reward for mining a block in terms of fees? It's .2 bitcoin, isn't it?
herbijudlestoids: Bunnyh: so for some reason when that function was called, it COIN must have = 0.097...
Evolyn: can someone tell me whats happening with havelock? the site is... not accessable @.~
Bunnyh: looks familiar, i've had to check the same function with other coins to understand some custom implementations
herbijudlestoids: is that the line that determines the block reward?
MisterE: I'll just follow the chat then jump on the sploit when you guys figure it out OK :p
Bunnyh: that was with the initial release of altcoind + latest eloipool
Bunnyh: can't you generate less than the allowed block reward + fees in btc too? or would that be rejected by other nodes?
ThickAsThieves: when/where is the block reward determined?
ThickAsThieves: can nodes somehow affect this?
MisterE: last niminee to try to be honest
MisterE: there's a thousand pundits waiting to say the whole thing is b0rked
Vexual: so mr forbes would say the whole think is borked
Bunnyh: they were just miners pointed to a pool that was pointed to altcoind
Bunnyh: "thought it was bitcoin" ? i have no idea what that could mean
ThickAsThieves: so how do we do the reverse is the question
ThickAsThieves: so it thought it was bitcoin not altcoin somehow
herbijudlestoids: weird as well because those 50 blocks are surrounded by 512 blocks
Bunnyh: Vexual: sure, i just thought i'd point those asics to a new coin for a night, it's not like that "too much hashpower" really makes much btc nowadays
MisterE: too much hashpower is a good problem to have
Vexual: are you mining bc on the same rig?
Bunnyh: Vexual: huh? i'm just interested in how/why that could happen
mircea_popescu: pankkake ^ you ever heard of shit like that ?
ThickAsThieves: we didnt have the source code on the 2nd tho
herbijudlestoids: it would still be good to see a log of the altcoind encountering those blocks and see what its saying
Vexual: why you telling people thne?
Bunnyh: just those three 50 ATC blocks randomly
Vexual: did you get any 512 blocks like that?
Bunnyh: herbijudlestoids: solo pool, i had too much hashpower to use altcoind directly
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids makes no diff really, cause the block was the block
mircea_popescu: perhaps it allows you to declare 50 btc new blocks if you wish, even if they shoulkd be 512 ?
herbijudlestoids: wait, did you mine them solo or in pool?
mircea_popescu: sounds like the code change might have been a little buggy ?
Bunnyh: i mined them on the 2nd
herbijudlestoids: looks like theyre older than what i got
herbijudlestoids: Bunnyh: i just checked my debug.log which goes back to the 9th of this month...none of those hashes are in there
mod6: herbi: thanks for the heads up.
Bunnyh: can't access it until after a few hours though
Bunnyh: yes i think so, unless it has already rotated enough so that those blocks aren't visible
ThickAsThieves: maybe we discover how to hack bitcoin to have smaller block rewards
herbijudlestoids: Bunnyh: that is kind of weird yeah.
herbijudlestoids: i seen lots of people complaining in the chat cos they thought theyre automatic
herbijudlestoids: mod6: withdrawals seem to require manual admin approval while theyre still in beta so keep that in mind
mircea_popescu: Bunnyh nopw that sounds like a bug
mod6: cool, thx her
herbijudlestoids: mod6: yea anything they trade is withdrawable
Bunnyh: how come some of my Altcoin block rewards are only 50 ATC ? i've mined a couple hundred blocks and most are 512, but three blocks are only 50
mircea_popescu: you'll likely move from offering just storage to offering processing too anyway
mircea_popescu: nobody has yet done a splendid job of bitcoin-based hosting, and there'd definitely be demand.
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: cloud storage is billed usually by the GB/month
ThickAsThieves: bitfetch.com seems to have died
ozbot: Is mcxNow trustful?
ThickAsThieves: lol these coins i bought on coinbase like an hour ago are +$70
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: regardless of the total supply, if i can go to market and get more satoshis per dogecoin (and i can, the liquidity is way better) then....
ThickAsThieves: i'm in there too ;)
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i think bingo has been thickening it up while we argued earlier, cos i kept pinging his bids hehe
mircea_popescu: actually atc book looks deeper than doge book
moiety: that's really kind herbi, but it's ok, i could try and mine one myself... OH I got my vanity! but its all mixed case D:
Vexual: noone knows, they moved the cap
the20year1: yeah mircea_popescu that too
ThickAsThieves: so far ATC has seen lows of like 150sat to highs of 700
the20year1: For a few years my brother worked for one such tech startup, their stupidity was amazing
ThickAsThieves: you dont need a wallet til you buy some
moiety: how is ATC doing ThickAsThieves should i have a wallet by now?
the20year1: mircea_popescu: sort of. All these little tech startups suck their funding dry and then move on to 'the next big thing' and screw over some other institutional investor
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids does that clarify the point, incidentally ?
herbijudlestoids: nah plenty of ATC on hand, he can easily stop my efforts by continuing to fatten out the book
herbijudlestoids: Vexual: currently im frustrating all of BingoBoingos attempts to get the price to read 700 :P
Vexual: who cares about magic the gathering, whats atc doing?
herbijudlestoids: 302 looks like its holding the lows on gox
mircea_popescu: wait! t\hey trade at a deep discount!
ozbot: NNSA Reaches B61-12 Life Extension Program Milestone: First Full-System Mechanical Environment Test
mircea_popescu: yet it "Acquires" things and whatnot
mircea_popescu: derp. the largest casino IN THE WORLD is worth less than pocket change
moiety: no, the muffins are not a lie!
mircea_popescu: the20year1 like facebook, groupon, twitter etc ?
the20year1: i imagine they're like all sorts of real world IPOs, milk the capital till it's dry, move on
ThickAsThieves: cuz they got em from you?
Duffer1: i'm pretty sure they got thousands