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mircea_popescu: o srsly ? /me actually clicks the link then
benkay: the tikooni
mircea_popescu: benkay i normally talk girls out of it not into it.
ozbot: Bet on: Ethereum talk > 10.000 views on YouTube
pankkake: https://fairlay.com/bet/registered/new/ethereum-talk-10-000-views-on-youtube/ how can this be approved :/
benkay: although if you foot the bill for travel to romania you can have a go at talking her into your dungeon.
mircea_popescu: speaking of lays : benkay take the girls pic, post it, have her come by i'll give her a bitcoin so she can build her independent wealth.
ThickAsThieves: someone likes the BitBet layout: https://fairlay.com/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform keeps giving us these immortality pills, we'll be here forever.
mircea_popescu: francis_wolke you'll ahve to put that in the form of a question.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who's this guy << no idea. seems to read my site at least occasionally.
mircea_popescu: the only difference being that in the 2000s humanity is fed by technology, whereas in 1900 it was fed by politics, which meant, of course, deploying the force of arms to acquire wealth.
mircea_popescu: ie, could we say the same things we say of our current fashion (ie, large scale tech project) about yesteryear's fashion ?
mircea_popescu: now, can we transpose the manhattan argument in terms of novemberverbrecher argument ?
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: I read the logs. My wifi died.
mircea_popescu: Dolchstoßlegende is the notion, widely believed in right-wing circles in Germany after 1918, that the German Army did not lose World War I but was instead betrayed by the civilians on the home front, especially the republicans who overthrew the monarchy. Advocates denounced the German government leaders who signed the Armistice on November 11, 1918, as the "November Criminals" (German: Novemberverbrecher).
ozbot: The conference, second edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mjr_: i am starting to try and make plans
mircea_popescu: mjr_ the conference you mea n?
mjr_: do you have the link handy for the romania trip?
mircea_popescu: "Even if the initial miners in the "Satoshi Gang" were not initially part of the USG - they would be hunted down and forced to turn over their Bitcoin at gunpoint." oh for the love of christ.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform who's this guy ?
mircea_popescu: "neigh-impossible" << what is this, cockney ?!
mircea_popescu: "it's disposal" that's not how you spell the possesive.
mjr_: went public on the pink sheets...as i was recommending bitcoin companies do a year ago
benkay: you could've jumped straight to the mockery!
benkay: if you'd read the gist it woulda saved so much time mircea_popescu
mjr_: did you guys see that guy from btc shop?
mircea_popescu: "and the remaining states are all allies of the US" < ahaha what!
benkay: i think the ltcmgmt is great!
mircea_popescu: mjr_ they're not that great.
benkay: you're in the litecoin biz nao
mjr_: long term crypto
benkay: well, sweeping now but general domesticity. what's the domain?
mircea_popescu: "A group of people associated with multiple world powers." << no. actual internationalisation happened in 2013, was announced on trilema.
benkay: hackin migration scripts, watching the babe do dishes in heels
mircea_popescu: benkay so that makes 2 :)
mjr_: i just got the coolest new domain
benkay: mircea_popescu: i pointed this out already.
mircea_popescu: " Anyone intelligent enough to create Bitcoin will have aligned themselves with some sort of governmental body." << this is a weak assumption.
mircea_popescu: half the time when i select something a final char is omitted
mircea_popescu: fucking teleomeres.
mircea_popescu: in a world where every "idea" is in fact chewed and spit and chewed so many times by so many generations by now all that's left is the spit itself, in which vaguely one can recognise the marks left by the spit of whoever long ago, in the manner new spits mix today because of the presence of that old saliva of yore,
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: See my gist. However, I think that it's clear I need to read the Bitcoin sources and more history. The 'reasoning' in said gist may not correspond to reality.
dexX7: mircea_popesu: yea, i guess it's not very accurate, but interesting to see an estimate
asciilifeform: you'll have thoughts like 'wtf. how is it that only one man can know something'
mircea_popescu: pankkake with a tenuous grasp of c practice.
asciilifeform: then you will know what it feels like to be a perfect 'conspiracy' of one man.
mircea_popescu: it's neither large scale nor important in that context.
pankkake: bitcoin, the first released version, was certainly written by one lone guy
francis_wolke: asciilifeform: I don't believe anything. I'm asking here because you all know more than I.
benkay: venice et al pwn the us anyways
mircea_popescu: if every great painting in history is a manhattan project then venice and the low countries own the us in manhattanness, srsly.
asciilifeform: i'm perfectly willing to listen to evidence that 'was'. but 'must have been' is absurd.
mircea_popescu: plenty of people need to know
mircea_popescu: a manhattan project is like escavating a tunnel under the nunnery.
asciilifeform: francis_wolke: you believe that it was? or believe that it must have been.
benkay: francis_wolke: have you read the source?
mircea_popescu: creating a new currency is like fucking an altar boy. nobody needs to know anything.
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: Ah - but that's what I'm getting at - I think it was.
asciilifeform: 'glorious secret undertakings like Manhattan p. carry on' is quite similar of a hypothesis to 'god exists'
mircea_popescu: "go fight in the arena for glory or rot in turda salt mine boi"
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: You simply don't have to tell all that many people when you're creating a new currency - and even if you do, who is going to listen?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the romans used the salt mines (in transylvania) to much the same effect.
francis_wolke: Still not sure why you both think we live in a world devoid of Manhattan projects btw.
mircea_popescu: benkay tiikoni and tis. you tease you. what happened to cunny and tits ?
benkay: mircea_popescu: on the subject of the feed you've been yammering at me about
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the lifespan of a redditard ?
asciilifeform: could just as well calculate the life of a somali pirate, or oil driller.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how'd you figure that ?!
asciilifeform: immortality is a tricky beast - biology aside! the life expectancy of a daily wash. d.c. beltway driver is maybe 200 years.
francis_wolke: mircea_popescu: I don't know you well enough to say.
mircea_popescu: i got lucky, cause btc came around, but how many cycles do you think i can take ?
mircea_popescu: and probably rue the day.
mircea_popescu: that aside, i do believe we'll probably be the first immortal generation,
mircea_popescu: i mean marginally, like i'm interested in whatever new chick takes her top off, but otherwise...
asciilifeform: francis_wolke: phun phact. my first paying job was 'activate somatic telomerase.' project croaked from utter lack of the necessary depth of understanding.
mircea_popescu: why do you think so ? i wouldn't personally be interested in such.
francis_wolke: asciilifeform: To clarify, I'd imagine that anyone with enough money / power would be interested in the possiblity of radical life extension (Peter Theil, MP, Satoshi) if / when the tech is there. As such, if I were smart enough to create btc, I'd certainly team up with the most powerful country, so that if the tech does get 'there', I'll be ready.
asciilifeform: idiot hipster asks for pgp tattoo, gets rot-13.
asciilifeform: haha that'd be hilarious in the pgp case
mircea_popescu: your average tattoo "artist" doesn't do so well with letters.
asciilifeform: if i recall it was the perl version
mircea_popescu: they never got far, i imagine cause they're so hard to make and unwieldy to weart
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking of which, are PGP tattoos still in fashion, i wonder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and legal to import into the us in your luggage, but then again illegal to export
asciilifeform: phun phact: many of the still-officially-secret docs from manhattan proj. are available in dead-tree print - in russian, naturally.
mircea_popescu: the actual man, ie, the middle class man.
asciilifeform: betcha if you plucked the quasi-mythical Pill Against RSA from its Indiana Jones subterranean vault, perhaps six people alive would understand what they are looking at were it shown to them. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well not THAT man in the street. not the mobile vulgus, the beasts of the field, strictly interesting for their flesh, the cockroaches in your fabled ny apartment.
asciilifeform: keeping a secret from the man on the street is trivial. often, you could run his nose in it and it will stay 'secret.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought we were strictly discussing secrets as "man in the street" affairs.
asciilifeform: but it does not follow that either was a 'perfect secret'
asciilifeform: it is very easy to draw mistaken conclusions from the fact that the 'man on the street' was entirely unaware of manhattan p. (or 'operation gladio', for a more recent example)
mircea_popescu: whereas the nsa is leaked yearly, in spite of supposedly being better.
mircea_popescu: which is why the fsb does not have documents leaked, in spite of it sucking,
mircea_popescu: when the options are a1, an you will not find out of a population of k, k <n, a single person capable of keeping secret X.
asciilifeform: (manhattan project was no secret to GRU.)
mircea_popescu: when the options are a1, a2, you will out of a population of 100mn find 50 people able to keep secret X
mircea_popescu: the limits on the largeness of scale and importance are placed by said law of large numbers.