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cads: mircea_popescu: I'm going
to investigate
the excuse don't worry :D
BingoBoingo: Doesn't he also keep a bunch of
tomatoes prisoner or am I confused.
cads: "While
transactions are signed,
the signature does not currently cover all
the data in a
transaction
that is hashed
to create
the
transaction hash. "
mircea_popescu: benkay you know he's
the asshole who stole my bentley and gave it
to a bunch of kids from like poor countries in india or some shit, and in exchange
they hacked a bunch of iphones for him
mircea_popescu: because he likes you and would like
to get
to know you better.
copumpkin: unless you layer additional stupidity on
top of it
copumpkin: anyway, it wasn't a
threat of loss of bitcoins
copumpkin: well,
they all failed at it in some way or another
mircea_popescu: i
think it was a
topic of discussion at least monthly.
copumpkin: all
the major exchanges and
the "official" bitcoin-qt client :P
copumpkin: if you're aware of it, which it
turns out nobody was
copumpkin: it isn't really all
that much of a problem
cads: Since when
the fuck does bitcoin have fucking
transaction fucking MALLEABILITY?!
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 666.0, Best ask: 669.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.00000, Last
trade: 666.0, 24 hour volume: 20510.92582860, 24 hour low: 628.88, 24 hour high: 673.01, 24 hour vwap: 650.017359511
cads: bitcoinity.org is now
tracking bitstamp rather
than gox?
benkay: the "ship
to forum sockpuppets" asic ploy.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 440.0, Best ask: 442.97, Bid-ask spread: 2.97000, Last
trade: 450.0, 24 hour volume: 53582.53478578, 24 hour low: 310.0, 24 hour high: 540.0, 24 hour vwap: 368.92604
Bugpowder: time for
the bot
to start quoting again
Bugpowder: You could probably do well in
the just-dice groupie scene
too
mircea_popescu: cads you'll never be popular with
the fiat-finance crowds,
cads: This is why I refuse
to learn finance first. I'd rather
take whatever math intuition handicap
than be caught using
theorems whose conditions are not satisfied.
BingoBoingo: And
the
trillions of hashes per second which aren't good enough
to find blocks.
benkay: this is
true of π as well.
mircea_popescu: (because you see, everything is in
the
torah, including
the birthdate of your future wife you;ve not yet met, as well as
the name of her secret lover)
mircea_popescu: the kabbalistic approach is
to use
them in
the manner global warmists use
their "data"
mircea_popescu: cads except
that's
the correct way
to use numeric methods
cads: So knowing
the nth letter of say an english message will definitely give a probability distribution for
things like "what word does
this letter belong
to" or "is
this
the middle or end of a word."
benkay: cads: well
then
there ain't nowhere
to go but up!
mircea_popescu: which all amount
to basically "let's find
the parametric function of
the future" or meaning or w/e
mircea_popescu: benkay you familiar with how if you read only
the nth letter in an arbitrary string you may find a message in
there ?
benkay: cads: you can find greater job satisfaction at a lower rate doing stochastic inventory and supply chain stuff.
that said, you have
to live in factories or warehouses and interact with line staff from
time
to
time.
cads: the
thing I find very useful about
the calculus is
that, forget finance, say you're dealing with an arrival process in a factory production cell or in an autonomous agent - now /that/ is a situation where your models basically become
the magic word of god.
mircea_popescu: benkay but dja know what
the kabbalist ppl mostly do ?
benkay: i was cracking wise about
the
technical folks'
tendency
to resort
to blind incantations.
benkay: mircea_popescu: stochastic simulations, generally? you'd know more
than me...
cads: Surprisingly so.... I'd hate for it
to go
to my head,
though :)
BingoBoingo: The stuff
that made Madonna dump A-Rod because his Batting average and WAR stopped being good numbers.
cads: I've been butting heads with
the stochastic calculus and I
think I'm about ready
to start reading Probability with Martingales - random variables, random processes, and statistics are starting
to feel a lot more natural.
mircea_popescu: benkay what do you
think numeric/quantitative methods are ?
mircea_popescu: the volatility in
this chan is fantasitc, not
two hours ago we were discussing
the new and improved ordering whereby you get more phonenumber with your order,
benkay: no mircea_popescu you see i have
this model and it shows
that if
things were different
things would be different
mircea_popescu: this remains
true no matter how breathtakingly beautiful, elegant or symetrical
they be.
BingoBoingo: The herbi lesson where you place orders based on how you want
the book
to look rather
than on how you could buy and sell at palatable prices.
mircea_popescu: on which
topic n
taleb's stuff can't be sufficiently recommended i guess.
mircea_popescu: bear in mind
that quants are idiots
tho. always important
to keep
this clearly in your head
benkay: that'd be
the piece in question, cads.
cads: math background is category
theory, algebra, graphs and computation/logic
cads: mircea_popescu: some economics and game
theory
cads: mircea_popescu: I'm looking for introductory materials in quantitative finance with focus on hedge funds and derivatives valuation. Any input in
this direction?
pankkake: I'm
trying a herbijujular strategy!
Apocalyptic: unless you submit it before
the script has a chance
to set
the new
token ofc
ozbot: X-BT -
The new marketplace for
trading Bitcoin with Litecoin, Namecoin and Altcoin
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The new marketplace for
trading Bitcoin with Litecoin, Namecoin and Altcoin
pankkake: there's a usuability issue, when you put an order, you get into
the page in POST mode; refreshing it would likely submit
the order a second
time
nanotube: nope,
that event was on feb 10
nanotube: i
think charts has removed anx.hk for
the moment
nanotube: mircea_popescu: bitcoincharts average got messed up one day, because anx.hk accidentally pushed dogecoin
trade data in place of bitcoin -
thus producing high volume at really low price, and screwing
things up.
☟︎ TomServo: Not sure why
that's not
the default
tbh
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 652.46, Best ask: 654.28, Bid-ask spread: 1.82000, Last
trade: 654.25, 24 hour volume: 39430.17, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 647.65
mircea_popescu: because i am currently carrying a shitton of puts, which i would contractually be allowed
to execute at
the 430 bs bitcoincharts price
mircea_popescu: by being in -assets i get
the chance
to learn how mpoebot etc actually work.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu
taps his keyboard of +3 plausibility.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla because
then somehow (?!)
the bitcoincharts avg came out as 537
kakobrekla: why was
the last quote 13923716xx
then
mircea_popescu: anyway, mpoebot isn't quoting because
the derivation among exchanges is
too large, and likely won't until
this is resolved somehow.
benkay: mp wrote a spec
that performs
mircea_popescu: it accounted for cases i duly forgot about and
then happened
mircea_popescu: at a
time long ago when nobody had heard of such a case or imagined it likely.
benkay: wow
the spec didn't account for all edge cases
mircea_popescu: benkay
the sad part of
this of course being
that
this is actually according
to spec i wrote myself.
benkay: mircea_popescu's having software
trubbles