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mircea_popescu: yeah, the idea is not interesting.
pankkake: meanwhile namecoin actually allows you to do this: https://nameid.org/?name=pankkake
pankkake: punkman: well the idea is interesting, but seems to rely on their website. also node.js :(
pankkake: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_Identity_Protocol wow this is awesome
r3wt: hey gribble i want to register but don't want to use GPG
gribble: (register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
gribble: (register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: mazel tov
benkay: i have learned this
mircea_popescu: yeah that'd be a strategic mistake.
benkay: defo my mistake in designing my regen motor: going for Isp and not testability.
benkay: not your best ISP, but definitely your best bet on fuel choices that aren't lethal without millions of USD in support staff and infrastructure.
benkay: too scared to ever test it
mircea_popescu: now that's a fucking nightmare.
benkay: at which point i was sucked off the rocket team and into the quadrotor team
benkay: now the fins spin, and the rocket goes straight!
benkay: then we decoupled the fins from exerting torque on the rocket body
mircea_popescu: the longer you go w/o spending it, the more your prize turns out to be.
benkay: on the first run this lead to an inversion of control, and eventually just crazy roll rates
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, it occurs to me that bitcoin makes th ebest fucking prizes you can give :
benkay: they induce airflow in a helix around the body, which when it impacts the giant stablization foils at the bottom
benkay: anyways, it's required because you have these tiny little control surfaces that swivel around up at the top of the body
benkay: and the bearings themselves are actually pretty small - they're just races attached to the frame
benkay: har not a consideration for this hog
benkay: tiny small control surfaces at the top
benkay: big fucking bearings too
benkay: we reverse engineered that from other rockets controlled with canards
benkay: but its got some sweet mechanics too, you'll note that the fins spin independently of the rocket body
benkay: basically built by ee's as a flight platform for their electronics
mircea_popescu: if nothing else we'll at least get to find out about shit everyone else thought we knew about (tm)
benkay: i nominate portland state aerospace society for their open source rocketry work
mircea_popescu: the fact remains that whatever interests us is what matters in the world henceforth, and whatever interests whoever else, seven billion anon rats, is not worth a cigarette butt.
mircea_popescu: if ppls wanna do physics too we do physics too. with a focus on rocketry or w/e interests us.
mircea_popescu: that's why godoshi has given us the concept of altcoins.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe. i mean... you know, do whatever we want to do.
mircea_popescu: cads herbi and whoever else this goes for you too, even if you're poor.
asciilifeform: and then we do physics, chemistry... ?
mircea_popescu: so srsly, no trolling, try and come up with a broad criteria. like a sentence or something, a paragraph.
mircea_popescu: a mechanical turk you can have, an automated gentleman you can't have.
mircea_popescu: may be a good idea, tho i fear automated trust systems may be hijacked in the way kakobrekla describes.
asciilifeform: if we do it with some fancy multi-keyed crypto widget, it'll double as a tontine...
mircea_popescu: im just trying to export my boardroom into your lives over here. i tell you, it works!
mircea_popescu: gotta have disagreement and scream at each other to end up with a good prize.
mircea_popescu: i could see him on the nominees list.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's that retard someone was recommending buying puts on the stock indexes for 10 years, showing like -5% on his hedge funds lol
mircea_popescu: plus you're buddy-buddy with the entire fucking academy.
mircea_popescu: drop all the rest, do this or perish.
mircea_popescu: what's to keep them from it ? let the entire rest of the world learn what it has to do in the nwo.
asciilifeform: hundreds to pick from?
mircea_popescu: definitely herbi or mike_c could get one if they keep with their blogs.
asciilifeform: you'd need an equally-reliable way to pin a public key on him
mircea_popescu: the sponsors (ie, members of the academy) would have to be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the recipient wouldn't have to be in the wot,
mircea_popescu: because those are too busy giving the prize to retarded monkeys.
mircea_popescu: there's hundreds to pick from, and none of them EVER make it on the libertard-run nobel rolls
asciilifeform: is herr szabo in the wot?
mircea_popescu: just to pull out of my ass.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "for outstanding contributions in the field of economics"
kakobrekla: ok can you give me 5 possible candidates for this ? i cant think of two.
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of the point of it in the first place anyway.
mircea_popescu: it has to be a gentleman thing.
mircea_popescu: well obviously we can't let this run as a dollar auction.
kakobrekla: given your confidence i could rob you of all your btc in that way if i gather > than you
mircea_popescu: w don't want any random tard's calls and notions anyway.
mircea_popescu: suppose you have to be in our wot to contribute.
mircea_popescu: i think it's defensible tbh.
mircea_popescu: i'll just deposit moar and fuck them ?
jurov: what if someone makes 51% attack and takes the pot?
mircea_popescu: what's even reasonable ? less than a third i guess
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i'm definitely supporting this but more like a matching thing.
kakobrekla: how much is that much?
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't deposit so much as to fuck things up
kakobrekla: if anyone can vote to according to their btc deposit weight then we can end up with completely different game where mp always wins.
mircea_popescu: for their economics contributions.
mircea_popescu: so looking in the deep of the deepest of your soul!! and such, what would be the criteria one'd actually meet you'd respect
mircea_popescu: aptly titled "stakes"
mircea_popescu: take obama, he's not rich because he melted down the peace gold medal, he's rich because he bleed dry a quarter billion idiots.
mircea_popescu: after all, someone winning the nobel prize for actual merit is already independently well paid anyway.
r3wt: you can tell me why im here?
mircea_popescu: this is supposed to work so as to humble the nobel idiocy, not necessarily as to make the recipient rich.
mike_c: i don't! point being that the prize would be dwarfed by the recipients already worthy rewards from winning in the marketplace.
r3wt: we do have something very cool in the works. i'm sure no one will see it coming either.
mircea_popescu: mike_c you say that like it's a bad thing.
mircea_popescu: r3wt well being here works wonders to defuse such tension.
mike_c: wouldn't that recipient have already amassed quite a sum by doing whatever he won the prize for?
r3wt: just try to understand where i'm coming from if you can
mircea_popescu: proportional to their contribution.
mircea_popescu: all we need is to agree on some gross criteria, then people construct a nominee list and all contributors vote on it
r3wt: but i'm not saying its not my fault because it sort of all falls on me in the end
mircea_popescu: we collect a pot by donation, whoever wants to contribute. then the pot is on a fixed date distributed to one recipient.
r3wt: other than Dogecoin everything is good
r3wt: Nothings wrong. i registered the llc and some of the staff didn't want to abide by the legal requirements and left. i've been afk, so withdrawals tend to pile up with no one to confirm them
asciilifeform: if people want to hand out prizes for whatever, nothing's stopping them?
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i think you would have hard time finding the nominees
kakobrekla: you came to the right church.
mircea_popescu: which nobel prize story inspires me. shouldn't we have a yearly prize of some sort for some thing ?
r3wt: i was told to come here
mircea_popescu: gotta be in the wot.
r3wt: i was invited to join the WOT, i had never heard of it before now
r3wt: jurov: thank you much my friend