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mircea_popescu: besides, one's in a much better position
to find comnena in 1200s
than 1400s. by
the 1400s, nobody in italy could read greek, you realise
this ?
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and for same reason he didn't care -- he also didn't start
the renaissance.
mircea_popescu: dante wisely never asked beatrice if she could read
the latin verse. nor did he care
mircea_popescu: literally
this,
things are important now
that literally did not exist a decade, or a century, or
ten
thousand centuries ago.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i fear
that may be just so much wishful
thinking.
mircea_popescu: it never occured
to me
to inquire whether, or
that i'd care if, 1998 girly wrote anything. who
the fuck cares, "sense enough
to not get run over" was plenty,
then.
mircea_popescu: today i have
to go
through millions of "profiles", and
the results are overall less satisfactory.
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, i could (and did) pick up women i'd share a bed with on
the street, some short
two decades ago. even less.
mircea_popescu: this has no bearing on
the expectations of people
to feed
themselves
through work of
their hands ; but it speaks rather on
the expectation of people
that
they can make friends.
mircea_popescu: yes, but in a different aspect ;
that concerned principally
the happenstance
that labour is no longer a
thing, much like phlogiston is no longer a
thing.
mircea_popescu: "you are not smart enough
to be here" certaily means something at all points of human existence, from
the eleusine days forward, and before. but WHAT it exactly means depends strictly on how sharp and how effectual
tools
there are available
ti distinguish sense from idiocy.
mircea_popescu: but
the more abstract world of representation (aptly described not by
the computer, but by
the
trilema-style referencing, which is more fundamental a computer
than
the computer itself for
the needs of
this conversation) suddenly exploded all
that. like when you lift a rug, suddenly all sorts of scum was exposed
that before passed.
mircea_popescu: to put
the matter into proper formalization :
the old world, of mechanical contraptions
that could be physically debugged, was relatively simple and moreover in certain senses and on some dimensions very strictly constrained. consequently it was possible
to build exam-taking rulebooks
that allowed a large population of morons
to build up, and "work", passibly well, as church wardens, ship righters, what have you.
mircea_popescu: "but your right honorable greatness! WE HAVE NO OPPOSABLE
THUMBS!"
mircea_popescu: watch
them at work,
the impression becomes inescapable you're
trying
to
teach lizzards writing
mircea_popescu: there is
that ; but more common with older folks seems a deep and fundamental ineptitude with
the programmable machines
BingoBoingo: Sure
they don't have souls, but
they got some rusty python scripts
to follow
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
The people peddling
the outlandish nonsense go out of
their way
to relieve fear. It's what
the swindlers do
mircea_popescu: and god only had a few million souls at
the peak available and
the women kept pouring out children, and well...
hanbot:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847674 << always was and still is fear. everyone i
talk
to, from parent
to phlebotomist
to self-imagined "people in crypto" says
the same shit:
they don't know how, and learning looks
too vast, and nobody will issue
them certificate of Everything's-Okay.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 17:07 BingoBoingo: And
thank you hanbot,
the V Genesised MP-WP is very nice. Much improved dashboard and editors.
mircea_popescu: hmm, i'm goping
through creanga's cannonical and i don't see it ; but i quite literally recall
this "take
the left, lose your life ;
take
the right, lose your quest ; go straight ahead and lose both"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I don't recall any explicit fork in harap alb? or what, after he gets into
the well,
the "choice"?
diana_coman: the
take was
take a feather or whatever it was
diana_coman: asciilifeform, ah,
the 3 road forks was "on
this road you'll never come back"
a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 19:04 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does ro have
that folk
tale, where 'go left, lose your horse, go right, lose yer life,...' etc ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
that eternal eldorado, eh << Nah, Miami
mircea_popescu: pretend
to make gods of men all ye will,
the problems of gods
then
they'll assail.
mircea_popescu: most of
these bums, from
taaki
to whoever else, are precisely not
the us professional class, but
the orc dreamer.
mircea_popescu: be it judges, politicians, realtors or
the community of poets from wisconsin
mircea_popescu: anyway,
there was a lot of metals dealing for coin back in
the day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is false, incidentally. amir
taaki famously had his 16 yo sister camho for coins.
mircea_popescu: the problem with manufactury is
that often
the evaluation of cultural artefacts produced is very difficult.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mercaptans. << Ah,
those sulphur smelling wenches with
the cloaca and scales!
mircea_popescu: ^
this was a
thing. "bitcoin jesus" was a
thing. all sorta lulz lie buried in
the everlog.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 15:32 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's do a 0cost experiment, why dontcha float
the idea
to
the dc people, see reaction.
mircea_popescu: ("theymos" "rassah" 8 3572807706 "Holds BTC for
the forum.") << aaahahaha epic luzl.
mircea_popescu: cazalla's comments meanwhile beleted, but lulzy reddit
thread he links
mircea_popescu: o look at
that, "I helped run plenty of conferences. I do have an idea.
The priority is
to make sure you have a conference
that runs well enough
that people don't notice
the problems, and
that everyone who paid
to attend it gets
their money's worth. Who actually paid
to make it happen is a bit lower on
the priority."
mircea_popescu: get out, rassah spent whole life writing social media crap. like
that david gerard animated scarecrow
thing.
mircea_popescu: you utterly misunderstand. all
these wankers did 0 work, precise
to 6 decimals.
mircea_popescu: i still recall with amusement rassah's story about how he bought a bunch of coins without bf's permission out of
their retirement fund, at 8!! and sold it all! at 13!!! RICH NAO FOREVER, because will pay off car.
mircea_popescu: in five years one'd
think "oh,
the people from 2018, bought millions' worth of btc, are now rich".
to
the people of 2018, bitcoin seems, somehow, "expensive". which is necessary -- if it didn't, price'd rise.