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decimation: On the other hand, it's better than nothing at all, like BFL
decimation: yeah. they claim it's because they are having to delay delivery of the newer 20 nm chips
mircea_popescu: decimation "everyone's making roi" or how did the scammertalk go
BingoBoingo: I'd also like to remind nubbins' Namworld and truffles of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#510761 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, I think when herbi was trying to sculpt an orderbook I pointed out that in fiat world the cheapest part is the money. Maybe this week a trailer park sells for $200, maybe next for $200,000
decimation: I bought one of the knc miner neptunes, thinking they would deliver. In retrospect, it was a dumb idea. Now they want to deliver me rights to their "datacenter" that will mine for me
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's dubiously fiat's fault, seeing how the solidus and aureus backed the same principle.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: American handegg has the same problem as boxing. Amazing where ad revenue goes when fiat backs the ads.
mircea_popescu: decimation notice that asic production only began in earnest once the set of fanbois crossed into the 100k heads territory.
mircea_popescu: tennis is free from this. if anything, every match makes you better.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo boxing has the problem that every fight kills you a little.
decimation: it strikes me as unlikely that random fanbois were able to actually design and build asics
BingoBoingo: The problem with boxing is the opposite thing. Where any party can veto any matchup. At least tennis forces these issues.
mircea_popescu: true true
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In a tournament she may have no choice.
BingoBoingo: The Alma mater couldn't do it. Maybe this woman who turned tits into a rocket can.
mircea_popescu: i doubt miss williams wants to play a scrappy player from romania.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If she matches up against WIlliam soon I'm going to make so much money and maybe kill a sportsbook.
BingoBoingo: So, I've bet on slovenia to beat Sweden in Olympic hockey to multiply my bet by 20
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves think marija
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well he started with two other noobs. One had sense to quit hours after my blog post. The other didn't quit until a few weeks ago. The one unfortunately stuck with the forum handle has sent me so much angry correspondence.
ThickAsThieves: maybe i'll even remember that
mircea_popescu: (they spell the ligature i as a j for some god forsaken reason)
mircea_popescu: THAT is going to be his problem. definitely.
mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo, this guy understands things.
mircea_popescu: nths after the purchase of the Contract"
mircea_popescu: "It is plain to see, from both sides of the issue, the troubles associated with PayPal payments. The problem SWMC would have with accepting PayPal payments is this: An investor purchases a Contract for X-GH/s using PayPal for the purchase. The mined BTC for the Contracts is paid to the investor over the following 6 months (for this example, the life of profitability of the investment.) Then, sometime between 6 to 12 mo
greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu hi, I've been reading your blog and thought I'd check out the chat
mircea_popescu: they're all the same anyway
decimation: yet people are not "waiting to buy" computers
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan hey, makes two of us.
decimation: as MP pointed out bitcoin is inflationary for a long time
decimation: this is why I find the "oh noes, the deflation" objection to bitcoin hilarious
mircea_popescu: the trade value of gold may never exceed the energetic cost of gold"
asciilifeform: then divide its cost by the five round cells inside.
ThickAsThieves: the one for your tongue
mircea_popescu: grossly stated, "seeing how the value of gold in a finite space would be a function of other physical processes in the same finite space,
asciilifeform: (go to your cellar, find one and saw it open.)
BingoBoingo: Oh the solar wind dude somehow managed to get scammier https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297334.msg5225572#msg5225572
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think i may prove a metastability re neutronsa
asciilifeform: this is the correct approach to explanation, btw: stuff a crowbar in the contradictions between observed reality and the extant crap
decimation: it's my understanding that sdcards are cheaper than the equivlient plain flash ships
mircea_popescu: kinda shows why the entire utilitarian and monetarist stuff is nonsense with a dab of cream.
mircea_popescu: well wouldn't a car which also sucks your cock be naturally more expensive than one that doesn't ?
asciilifeform: no need to pay for transport, etc
mircea_popescu: in the strict utilitarian view of utility.
asciilifeform: (see the 'price ceiling' discussion from a few months ago)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fun fact : teleportable gold would be cheaper than gold as-is currently is.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I mean we can add some crypto to gold teleportation, but at that point the gold may as well be superfluous
asciilifeform: until people get eager enough to start throwing neutrons
mircea_popescu: decimation one of the advantages of au is that it being elemental, it's actually finite in any finite region of space.
asciilifeform: (to follow the analogy)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: presumably it responds to the correct incantation only.
decimation: what if I teleported all the gold on Jupiter?
ThickAsThieves: "This topic has been moved to Trashcan."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What protects the gold from malicious teleportation?
decimation: I was watching Top Gear last sunday and they were driving a Dacia sedan
mircea_popescu: "just like that but green"
mircea_popescu: "well... do you know the color of the sky just as the sun is rising ?"
mircea_popescu: lmao, reading those old article, a romanian joke :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the absence of both of these being long regarded as a bug in the implementation of physicality.
asciilifeform: if gold could be teleported at will, and likewise stowed in an inaccessible 'never-land' by the owner, one would need no electronic cryptocoin.
mircea_popescu: are you kidding ? the soul is the first to go.
decimation: in the final analysis everything can be taken from you, except your soul
mircea_popescu: the laws of physics are after all maffs, all of them.
mircea_popescu: what is more "physically yours" than something nobody can take from you ?
mircea_popescu: it could just as well show that the pedestrian definition of "physical" isn't really as important as we thought.
mircea_popescu: decimation are we sure this is actually true ?
asciilifeform: was this really a shock to anyone?
decimation: bitcoin teaches that the valuable part of the gold coin isn't the physical coin but merely the information it conveys
mircea_popescu: then you discover some of those people actually heard of merlot, and even can distinguish it from pinot.
asciilifeform: 'even' in the russian prison there are smart folks. some, perhaps not quite smart enough to spring loose, some that stay out of habit, some that have simply not located a sufficiently fat herd of bullocks...
mircea_popescu: like... suppose there's a club of shitbathers, who seek out filthy stables and other animal warehouses to bathe in the crap
mircea_popescu: to me it is a perpetual surprise tbh.
asciilifeform: but, seeing only what can be seen in the infamous quote, it was a good show.
asciilifeform: i doubt this is a surprise to anyone
asciilifeform: leaving aside the question of whether a particular mouthpiece of the headless dictatorship believes this, it is clearly intended for the consumption of folks who do (or could, with the right prod)
mircea_popescu: i don't know the guy well enough to discern da fuck he's thinking under n layers of public communication bs
mircea_popescu: im not entirely sure that's his problem there.
asciilifeform: witness herr dimon, believing that 'surely this cartoon coin can be copied just like mp3'
asciilifeform: seems to me like they are actually envisioning that cartoon coin, except somehow 'made of bit'
mircea_popescu: they are proceeding on a radically different sort of abstraction than the number-servants
mircea_popescu: but you are wrong to think that the language-servants are not proceeding abstractly.
asciilifeform: folks with fully-decked-out brains, who can reason in abstractions, can't really picture what it's like not to
mircea_popescu: possibly the most imporant articles i ever published but the shit's fucking abstruse.
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decimation: you see this phenomenon with the Old Republican goldbugs who try to understand bitcoin
BingoBoingo: Oh Seals now says they require 2 confirmations to credit deposits while only actually requiring one.
mircea_popescu: i have a set of three articles in romanian laying the foundation for understanding this and many other bullshits.
decimation: yeah electronics have to come in a box with irrelevant art
asciilifeform: or they can't imagine concept of 'coin'
mircea_popescu: it is not nearly as silly as it seems. there's a fundamental tension at work.
asciilifeform: i think these folks literally have to see a gold coin, albeit a cartoon gold coin
mircea_popescu: they display this by donning the polity's fashions
mircea_popescu: they're "professional" which really is just a shoddy translation of "civilised", ie, part of the polity
asciilifeform: they demand these curious idols.
asciilifeform: re: the abstraction-blind.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember 'the camel has two humps' piece?