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mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan or if not some trivial html editing
mircea_popescu: so i guess the circle is complete, don't recomend yarvin to me, recomend trilema to his readership, which will result in him having more stuff to write in the future.
mircea_popescu: which actually came to be because of a discussion with asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: which happens to be a re-write of http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-charity/
Vexual: no ensuring the mower blades are firmly attached can be detrimental to observers health
greenspan_fan: I think chrome's incognito mode lets you read any nyt article you want
greenspan_fan: it's more intended for the severely computer illiterate
mircea_popescu: theirs does not in fact work as implemented, like a lawn mower that doesn't cut, you just follow after it with clippers.
mircea_popescu: it was a purely technical discussion.
greenspan_fan: isn't theirs worse, though? I can get the news from anywhere, but to read your site I have to use proxies or wait
mircea_popescu: "i suppose this is what should be on my business card : i'm the guy who came up on his own with a better system than what the nyt came up with, six i mean eight months later"
mircea_popescu: "Cred ca asta ar trebui sa-mi scriu pe cartea de vizita : eu sunt un tip care-a conceput asa, de unul singur, un sistem mai eficient decit chestia implementata de New York Times, sase opt luni mai tirziu."
mircea_popescu: (ie, the nyt system is quite pathetic)
ozbot: Hello NYT - Goodbye NYT pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/hello-nyt-goodbye-nyt/ that was an article on the occasion
greenspan_fan: people need to be told what's worth money
Vexual: hey, i do the trolling here cazalla
mircea_popescu: i was absolutely the first to charge.
mircea_popescu: i GAVE IT to the nyt.
cazalla: that idea to charge, did you get that from NYT or some other news site?
greenspan_fan: yeah, I went to see joshua bell and I barely rioted at all
greenspan_fan: he was the original musician (I believe) whose reputation had faust superimposed over it
mircea_popescu: the pedestrian explanation, of course, being that he had a much softer crowd to work with.
greenspan_fan: not well; it's a reference to niccolo paganini who was reported to cause riots and fainting spells at his concerts
mircea_popescu: you play the violin ?
greenspan_fan: yeah, I wasted my deal w/ the lower power on violin playing skills
mircea_popescu: either that or satan.
greenspan_fan: but if the ideas are themselves good, the product tends to be good.
mircea_popescu: i never draft. i publish then i have editors edit my shit. maybe once in a blue moon i decide midway that what i'm writing is stupid and drop it altogether.
greenspan_fan: Well, one purpose of multiple drafts is to capture the best version of what you're trying to say
greenspan_fan: I can't really tell, since you're not a native english speaker, but I'd say "one draft" because you're baiting me.
greenspan_fan: rather than having to go through tediously to find what's worthwhile
greenspan_fan: idk, but it's actually enjoyable/interesting to read
mircea_popescu: so how many drafts does trilema average ?
greenspan_fan: and in particular, the image of everything great ever written starting as a blank page was perfect
greenspan_fan: there's not an incentive to perfection
greenspan_fan: low effort in the sense that you can tell posts are first/second drafts
mircea_popescu: low effort as compared to what ?
greenspan_fan: but putting an idea in its best terms is hard, and blogs are somewhat low effort
mircea_popescu: not much of any value or import can be found outside of a blog these days, nor will be for a while.
greenspan_fan: which is not to say that they don't have interesting/worthwhile things in them
mircea_popescu: the same was true on broadway, back when broadway still mattered : huge noise to signal ratio.
mircea_popescu: but this is merely a side effect of them having the absolute monopoly on all peaks of human production.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan what are you talking about, not on a blog.
greenspan_fan: The line about facing the "same one doom" in trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or-the-importance-of-blogging/ was excellent as well
greenspan_fan: so I may have to find some of my usb keys to actually subscribe, rather than pirating
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: That's why MP can charge
mircea_popescu: i did write the translation ad hoc.
mircea_popescu: and no, the original is a classical romanian poem, for which asciilifeform ferreted out the old soviet translations. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509201 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you should check it out. cagney in west berlin, fixing up the slutty daughter of his us boss with a local nutty kid.
mircea_popescu: since we're doing this, you ever saw One, Two, Three ?
greenspan_fan: hey, did you write/translate the poem in "The Letter Third"? http://trilema.com/2014/the-letter-third/
greenspan_fan: suggesting a holiday in cambodia (under the pol pot regime), because something short of actually being in a communist country is unlikely to make an impact
greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu the lyrics are addressed to the stereotypical college leftist
Vexual: is he saying marx was chasing his tail?
mircea_popescu: rather banal punk, classical themes (fakers, real world, bla bla), what of it ?
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan i think i must be missing something.
greenspan_fan: ever heard the song "Holiday in Cambodia"? It's kinda apropos
mircea_popescu: you mean persuaded rather than dismissed ?
greenspan_fan: it's one of those things you have to experience in order to discover that no, it won't be different this time
mircea_popescu: i have seen no such thing to date.
Vexual: i can save two hours ignoring a book by not picking it up
greenspan_fan: yet you see people who still claim to be "communist" and aren't easily dismissed
Vexual: i think i can't , and dont
mircea_popescu: is not excusable in 2000s, when everyone THINKS they can read.
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: Transnistria is the last surviving Soviet Socialist Republic
mircea_popescu: yeah but what is excusable in the 1800s back when nobody could or did read and so you were able to count on a certain audience
greenspan_fan: which is what I alluded to when I said one of the reasons smart people espouse communism is for theoretical interest
mircea_popescu: i'm not throwing out heidegger or husserl or hegel on the grounds of being involved in communism
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan theoreticians often get overexcited which makes them be stupid.
mircea_popescu: Vexual taleb ? what of him ?
Vexual: and your freind with the offer of 1bc?
greenspan_fan: but he genuinely believed it was the ideal system of the world
mircea_popescu: it makes the point. marx studying idiocy is marx studying idiocy.
B007: who is that quote by
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan "it is forbidden to have a course in nonsense. But the history of nonsense, that is scholarship."
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: Are you familiar with Transnistria?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I just going off of what I see. Zizek dislike the communism he grew up with, but instead prefered the still stupider communism advanced by Hulkamania
mircea_popescu: or else they just weren't intelligent. at all.
mircea_popescu: either they are in fact intelligent but it has nothing to do with the shameful stupidity of communism, much like beethoven probably farted but this isn;t normally mentioned
greenspan_fan: vis. crediting them with intelligence? or describing why they might be interested?
Vexual: they want everyman to have the same power or something
mircea_popescu: no, simply your categorisation of these people is flawed.
greenspan_fan: cf. zizek, who I can't really slot into one of the above groups
greenspan_fan: Alternatively, you have people with great intelligence who support it because it's theoretically interesting, or controversial, or perhaps out of masochism
greenspan_fan: not a ground state, though
mircea_popescu: but no one goes there willingly. one is a communist that is too stupid, too lazy, or too stupid and lazy to be anything else.
mircea_popescu: i guess technically that may count as some sort of an attraction.
mircea_popescu: it's just the shithole in which the stupid fall.
greenspan_fan: communism seems to attract the intersection of both groups
greenspan_fan: but there's also the people who don't respond to any sort of abstract counterargument
greenspan_fan: on one hand, there are the people who just don't learn from experience
mircea_popescu: communism is like cancer : at the very most it allows the fucked to appreciate how great it'd have been if they weren't so fucked.
Vexual: mirce do you think communism as it was in romania allowed more opportunities for people to be successful?
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greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu I don't really get the "infinite hitpoints" thing
mircea_popescu: it only goes the same way if you're not yourself a cow.
greenspan_fan: Partly, you have to be restricted from opting out