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Namworld: Even if
they aren't. You can sell
those 450 goxBTC for 180 BTC or 100k+
ThickAsThieves: so what's
the prediction for
the next gox announcement?
Bugpowder: how
they fuck could
they get
the cold wallets drained. It's not plausible
Bugpowder: that dude
that wired $50k in is gonna do well.
kakobrekla: davout i was agreeing on you re internet sucks after i saw
TwinWinNerDs line.
Namworld: The only
thing I regret is moving funds out of MtGox before
the issues.
TwinWinNerD: What do you guys
think is a fair pricing for GoxCoins right now?
benkay: rentalstarter seems
to be in sales rate decay mode
mike_c: they aren't playing games,
they are day
trading on gox
kakobrekla: i dunno i just find
the lappys funny on a protest
kakobrekla: i dunno whats with
the middle guys face,
the jacket cleary says "THE NORTH FACE"
jayk: with mtgox, do
they hold your coins?
jayk: with it being so low, once
the exchanges resume, i wonder if people will cash out or just let it ride
till it climbs back up
jayk: mtgox is really kicking
themselves, now
they relocated offices
Mallstromm: and now seriously: where is Vladimir? We need him
to make a "hitler discover his coins are stuck on Gox".
Mallstromm: probably modern Windoze and OSX are pumping all
the data of somebody using
Tor on
that systems
Mallstromm: Of course using
Tor on Windoze or OS X is just retarded
Mallstromm: sure, using
Tor singles you out. But if you use it correctly
that's all
they know -
that you are using
Tor.
dignork: mircea_popescu: I read
trilema, like your writing style and general mindset, it just doesn't mean I have
to agree with everything you say
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, probably wouldn't be able
to appreciate what
trilema has
to offer
dignork: asciilifeform: pulled disk etc.
This is a directed attack. I can imagine
this picture, patyvans
travels all over us,chaina,w/e and pull disks from all
tor users. Srsly?
Apocalyptic: "<m7a> actually, I
think right now
the entire mtgox issue is pretty relevant
to bitcoin as a whole"
davout: i'm out,
this internet sux
mircea_popescu: i don't
think anyone actually pulls disks anymore do
they ?
davout: why is
there no "hitler has coins on gox" video yet
ozbot: Dear Guardian : stop being retarded. pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
dignork: mircea_popescu: ok, you suggest
that mere fact of using
tor, singles you. Since Snowden-induced paranoia
this might not be a case anymore.
mircea_popescu: even if
they have
these funky hats
that sort-of make you invisibly unrecognisable.
mircea_popescu: dignork listen here, if you're
trying
to not be caught cutting school, going
to
the bar across
the street where kids cutting school go isn't your best bet.
dignork: mircea_popescu: even lame proxies/vpns provide SOME level of anonimity,
the fact
that
they're obviously not absolute does not make
them useless.
mircea_popescu: dignork i
think
the answer is contained in your question.
dignork: mircea_popescu: what's wrong with
tor providing anonimity? I understand it's not absolute, but still better
than nothing, and cheap.
benkay: fiat
thinking
takes some
time
to disloge
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck in his right mind would imagine
that a)
tor actually serves your anonimity or b) in order
to anonimize you create accounts is beyond me.
mircea_popescu: thinking otherwise is right out of
the book with
the flat earth,
the perpetuum mobile,
the keynesian economics and so on and so forth.
nubbins`: the omission of x vs y in
the original statement
threw me for a loop
mircea_popescu: anyway,
this isn't so much an exercise in showing how great bitbet is for
this purpose, but moreover on how
trivial it is
to use any properly designed service as a
tumbler,
☟︎ benkay: but
this
thwarts
the scammer's desire
to launder all
their money without having any
to begin with.
nubbins`: okay, so
the person sniffing
traffic just watched me provide
two addresses, A' and B',
to bitbet
dignork: but
they can be flatten on a series of bets, so ok, it can work
dignork: mircea_popescu: open bets as
tumbler are not usable, since
the fee, which contains odds change, is unpredictable
mircea_popescu: i dunno where
this "closed bets as
tumblr"
thing started, but it's not so clever.
nubbins`: anyway, B isn't clean,
the sniffer just watched
their suspect
tell bitbet
to pay out
to B
dignork: mircea_popescu: since bet is private,
the bet itself is a link between A and B,
the fact
that bet was established over plaintext makes it not private in general.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` so now address A dirty is connected
to A', clean
mircea_popescu: at any rate
this is why bitbet addresses work
the way
they do on
this score.
mircea_popescu: that shows you on
the site where it
thinks btc is going out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but
the person can
trivially verify
this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there is a barb here. bitbet addresses are rather consecutive if you've noticed.
mircea_popescu: so you ask for an address
to bet, and insert an address
to receive.
nubbins`: suppose he's in a submarine in
the middle of
the atlantic
nubbins`: this is
the essence of dignork's issue
nubbins`: okay, well, let's not get hung up on "know". fact remains
that a direct connection has been made between A and B
mircea_popescu: what now, joejobbing
the bitcoin network because we're idiots and we
think we can make statements about
things we don;'t understand ?