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markov: mircea_popescu: the same could be about MPex though... 'just some website'
goxxed: I bought >600 goxbtc during the last hours. I'm convinced it will be one of the best investments of 2014
mircea_popescu: anyone can write any numbers they wish on their website
markov: it should probably be goxASSETS/goxLIABILITIES which is what account holders will receive during the bankruptcy
mircea_popescu: ie, mtgox stole more from coinlab than coinlab stole from mtgox.
mircea_popescu: afaik coinlab is really in the red.
mircea_popescu: dexX7_ because their accounting was a complete mess, and because they never followed the an0 spec, things that'd be normally deductions have no scriptural basis.
mircea_popescu: they've been pretty much lieing at every turn since 2011.
markov: like seriously what the fuck is wrong with this idiot??
markov: mircea_popescu: how could he be so stupid to lose the keys???!
mircea_popescu: part of it was lost to an unclear event which may be some sort of dwolla backstab or else some deal or who the fuck knows
mircea_popescu: (this goes right backl to the earlier discussion re "lawyers")
mircea_popescu: dexX7_ part of it was lost to the usg, as a result of karpeles signing false documents
mircea_popescu: markov for a long, long time.
markov: latest rumor is that Karpeles lost the key to the wallet
cazalla: jurov: he needs to replace that i know that feel image with http://i.imgur.com/Zt2EIOa.jpg
dexX7_: is there any publickey to pubkeyhash converter online?
jurov: there's also this from krakens ceo
cazalla: i don't own enough so the removal of 750k would at least push me up a notch albeit a small nudge
mark0v: lost cold wallet would be best (rather then some theives having it)
cazalla: i can't help but hope the coins are gone for the benefit of myself
mark0v: seems like there was a hack early on, and everything since then has been an attempt to make back coins by speculating
mark0v: at $10/coin... which was stupid because as the price rises, they'd never be able to buy back coins to pay investors back
mark0v: mircea_popescu: so, they were speculating with depositors coins and making acquisisions with them?
mircea_popescu: it's a good idea to read the logs.
mircea_popescu: you know, i ended up repeating this pretty much twice a day because nobody reads logs.
mark0v: blockchain is publically auditable, we need the withdrawl logs
mark0v: no news on where the actual coins are yet...
mark0v: doesnt really say where the coins are
jurov: mark0v: just check the twobitidiots blog
mircea_popescu: yes, they were/
mark0v: whats the latest conspiracy theory on GOX coins??
dexX7_: there are those rumors that multiple investors were contacted to bailout/buy gox etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#523392 < i suspect that is the link you're looking for. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mebbe i call them... Burnside
jurov: so, you have yor bases covered... but if you started developing retardation treatment drops, i'd be concerned a bit :D
davout: good to know!
mircea_popescu: davout thjat's how it works everywhere, trade harmonisation etc.
jurov: however, it remains to consideration whether retardation is "pulmonary, inflammatory and infectious disease"
jurov: yes, it's there, too
davout: i don't know how it works in other countries, but in france when you trademark sthg, you must also specify the scope in terms of activity the trademark is to be used in
mircea_popescu: jurov thee's a lot of stuff. Pharmaceutical preparations for the treatment of pulmonary, inflammatory and infectious diseases ; Management and organization of multi-purpose exhibit showrooms for others ; Electric and electronic video surveillance installations.
jurov: "For example, the search term *DOG* ..." lmaooooo
davout: "introducing the goxxed dildo, can get in, but with its spikes, IT CAN'T GET OU!!1"
jurov: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4810:ry2ygn.1.1 go there, search for mpex
davout: imagine all the goxxed goodies you could make
davout: i'm pretty sure the "goxxed" term is worth more xD
davout: i'm not sure the bitcoin trademark is worth that much
mircea_popescu: you can't hold a trademark on people's legal names against their use thereof.
jurov: u sure no one has trademarked "mircea popescu" ?
mircea_popescu: but hey, what's the rush to figuring things out.
mircea_popescu: which is why strategically competent people called themselves MPEx rather than BTCex
davout: oh yeah, i forgot about the trademark
davout: that, i believe, is one of the most plausible scenarii
mircea_popescu: the only thing is the bitcoin trademark, which was IDIOTICALLY assigned to mtgox by people without a clue
mircea_popescu: mtgox can't even cover the btc it owes the bitcoinica liquidators.
mircea_popescu: everyone takes a 100% loss.
davout: my account there is empty since 2011
mircea_popescu: i just lumped together all the "pr moves" around their first capital injection
mircea_popescu: davout at the time they were throwing money around
mircea_popescu: InfiniteRadio_ what campus is that /
davout: yeah, probably not, would still be curious about the results of some sort of forensic financial audit
mircea_popescu: about 600k of those claimed 750k happened by 2012.
mircea_popescu: jurov they lost about 200k in one go o nthat 1 cent/btc debacle in 2011 if you recall ☟︎
InfiniteRadio_: Shirts are great...i put "Justin Bieber stole my girlfriend" on 25 shirts and sold em all for $20 on my campus...although my "I don't care about pizza...i only care about parties" didn't do so hot....broke even though with the biebs
mircea_popescu: that part is true.
jurov: at least something to be remembered for
jurov: using that method they could have easily lost more than total btc in circulation
davout: i'd be really curious to see some verified numbers
mircea_popescu: the20year1: is it provable/possible that gox has 740k bitcoins 'somewhere'? < that figure includes all their numerous historical losses going back 4 years, converted to bitcoin at the time of loss
mircea_popescu: o look decimation had it before me :D sorry, hadn't read the entire log.
jurov: nubbins, imma get 10% of that
jurov: but i have an idea, put bash quotes on tshirt as qr codes
jurov: that would be a tech feat, fitting so much data there
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` ^
davout: fitting it on thshirts :D
mircea_popescu: of course he's special so he can't really block print, he has to draw.
mircea_popescu: nubsy was doing something like that.
davout: i'm sure if you print out the previous year for use in N+1 it'd still be useful to some!
mircea_popescu: it's the only tenet of the assets faith
mircea_popescu: everyone has to look at the logs all the time
B007: I have to look at the logs..
B007: you made the SEC hang out on irc - lol
davout: i start hooking them on the soft stuff before moving on the hardcore, expensive stuff
mircea_popescu: what are these gypsy muzaks
davout: ;;later tell benkay https://www.dropbox.com/s/bbbwomroz8l51p0/Cellissimo.zip
mircea_popescu: we were either coming from or going to the beach
B007: in your twitter pic...WHAT IN THE BAG?
mircea_popescu: jurov no in this case it's competent self management. i was inches from going "oh go get laid, you're nuts" at him.
jurov: and then goes away like "okay imma fuck"
jurov: spouts infeasible idea on them
jurov: on the land, i mean
jurov: just building 4km high tower would be much easier
jurov: you'd get, like, supercritical (almost liquid) co2 at that pressure
mircea_popescu: use your inflatable tube.
benkay: no what i want to do is go fuck my girl
mircea_popescu: you want to make a tube 4 miles long ?
benkay: it's an inflated tube, yo
mircea_popescu: cause you're launching it from the ocean floor.
benkay: pI = pE, tho