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mircea_popescu: dexX7_
they were still pr-izing at
the
time, hoping beyond hope
they'll find a sucker somewhere.
dexX7_: this was before
the crisis paper went public
Apocalyptic: <wbaw> it seems
to be mt.gox was
trying
to pitch
that plan
to investors who didn't want anything
to do with it & leaked it // sounds reasonable
wbaw: well,
the plan looks pretty illegal
to my uninformed opinion
ThickAsThieves: or,
the ones
that were interested in
the plan were
the ones who
then unearthed
the dirtier
truth
wbaw: it seems
to be mt.gox was
trying
to pitch
that plan
to investors who didn't want anything
to do with it & leaked it
ThickAsThieves: unless something was able
to be gleaned from
the financial page
Apocalyptic: " but one article clearly referenced
the expected return for 2014." it's in
the business plan
dexX7_: the stuff was not only leaked
to investors/exchanges, but also
to
the press. or it was leaked
to
the press from one of
them.. i'm not sure right now where i read it, but one article clearly referenced
the expected return for 2014.
Apocalyptic: "but it's speculation, at
this point we can't be sure" i don't even...
MisterE: how far up your ass does your head have
to be
to
think
that
Apocalyptic: what's funnier is some people are so in denial up
to
the point
they're even doubting mtgox is missing coins, at
this very moment
mircea_popescu: recall when
the bitfinex was broken in half last
time ?
mircea_popescu: that's how children react, your average raped 9yo girl is more likely
to not
tell.
ThickAsThieves: like Bitstamp selling 25k btc after Mark walks out
the room or such
mircea_popescu: that's because
they're scum, and
that's what scum knows and does.
mircea_popescu: you mean how come
the various contemptible schmucks - like jesse powell, like roger ver, like etc did not go
mircea_popescu: there's no such
thing as "disregard what mp says expect
to be able
to survive"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you forget
the info was motherfucking leaked in public lmao
dexX7_: were
they obligated
to leak such info? isn't
this stuff kinda confidential?
ThickAsThieves: also, like, even if you did make sure
to sell all your coins first, how could you not leak
this info
to
the public sooner?
MisterE: Hmm, just about
time
to get back in
thickasthieves: the story of where
this reached isn't done, and more
than gox will go down for acting on it's insolvency
dexX7_: i bet
this 10k sell on bitstamp was related
to
this
mircea_popescu: The problem is,
the lot of
them being packed up and hauled
to jail would be no such infringement. It is at
this point perfectly reasonable and quite unavoidable. Sure,
they’ll
try and sell
this libertarian angle,
that’s
the curse of being pro-freedom : all
the scumbags
try
to exploit you for
their little profit
turning “ideas”. It won’t wash.
mircea_popescu: Once
that happens, I am positive and certain
that
the same people who are now running around calling
their betters names will
try
to
turn
things into some sort of “mean state infringing on people’s rights”.
They have a fine record at
trying exactly
that.vi
ThickerThanThiev: so basically gox gave all
the exhcnage leaders head's up
to sell
mircea_popescu: the20year1 i left
the guy a comment, he's not published it.
bitcoinpete: I'm just going
to leave
this here. It's about
trust, greed, idealism, and Snake.
ArsKisS: now you can remove
the walls, folks
mircea_popescu: a bassoonist with a jd in law
that was
the best
the wikimedia foundation could do for counsel
this past decade
mircea_popescu: and
then go nuts on
the forum about how he sent some guy his last fifty bucks and can't afford food for
the week now.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo roger ver is one of
those guys
that love
to
talk
to people and
then
talk
to people about how many people he
talks
to
chetty: "inappropriate" now
thats a weaselword
twizt: where do
they draw
the line
mircea_popescu: some guy was bitching
that 30mn youtube views only made him like 20k usd
twizt: i wonder how much it would cost
to promote satanism
mircea_popescu: basically
there's
this core of idiots and scammers and
the idiots just won't let
the scammers loose.
jurov: i'm certain karpeles did ask
them
to help,
too
jurov: markov
that does not matter
mircea_popescu: ahahaha mike hearn harping about how
teh Powerfully Retarded Rangers are nao poor and will disband
markov: so you guys
think karpeles lost keys rather
then a hack?
markov: jurov: good point,
they're probably employed
the best exploit guys ;)
mircea_popescu: "people smarter
than us who aren't impressed with our conventions" => evil!
mircea_popescu: markov
this is how "HC SVNT DRACONES" is noted in modern english
jurov: markov: quite many intelligent people returned from
the west, living here is okay for
them
markov: robert scoble in
toronto>?
ozbot: Twitter / SergeiShoigu: Welcome
to my official
Twitter ...
jurov: maybe someone really
thinks putin will pull it
jurov: dunno,
they're making some preparations here
mircea_popescu: i don't
think anyone seriously considered
the ukrainians moving en masse
mircea_popescu: jurov amusingly, romania had a published (but not public) policy of allowing open immigration for israelis should
they need it
markov: l33t. you guys must be one of
the few intelligent people left in
the eastern european countries
markov: is
that where you're from mp?
markov: i guess ill just gamble on just-dice
to make
them back
markov: its quite a shame
that i have nearly 300 goxBTC
markov: mircea_popescu: i despise communism.
that website is clearly reporting FUD
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, "Greek police, under
the orders of
the Ministry of Public Order & Citizen Protection, have begun
to enter schools in order
to establish
the political views and activities of schoolchildren and
their families"
mircea_popescu: markov i guess
that proves
the alleged founder of dreamhost is an idiot ?
markov: "I had no inside knowledge of
the situation at mtgox and am
truly shocked at
the current state of
their affairs. I personally have over 8,000 GOXBTC and $400,000 USD locked in
their system, and am still converting all "real" BTC
trading fees from
the site
to GOXBTC, and I will never sell any personal GOXBTC via
this site. "
mircea_popescu: dexX7_ you know, p e singer made a few millions
that way
dexX7_: much more fun
than lottery
markov: goxxed must be
trolling
mircea_popescu: pay 1 btc or less on a lark, i can see. like you'd buy a lottery
ticket
markov: goxxed: say goodbye
to your 50 BTC. you cant be serious!
dexX7_: goxxed: do you expect some kind of miracle where
thousands of coins appear out of nowhere?
mircea_popescu: discerning
the grain from
the chaff is a full
time professional endeavour
markov: bitcoinbuilder is run by founder of dreamhost -- he has a positive reputation -- if
that means anything
mircea_popescu: markov yup. and
the nyse and
the wh.org and everything else.