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asciilifeform: it is worth your while to read about who is interested in it, and why
asciilifeform: dignork: homomorphic crypto came up here many times
BingoBoingo: Introducing noise as a reciever isn't too new
dignork: asciilifeform: there was another approach at working with unsecure hardware, maybe it was mentioned here before: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EncryptedComputationEdited
asciilifeform: *through the noise of
asciilifeform: your cpu can be heard through the neighbourhood tvs just fine.
BingoBoingo: The way to appear clean though is to cage the important machines and subcribe to Cable's sports package and have a lot of CRT TV's
asciilifeform: where the sound chip had a noise diode built in
asciilifeform: afaik none of the '80s micros included a reasonably useful entropy source, with the possible exception of the 'commodore-64'
asciilifeform: whereas if you operate on 'voodoo', you will happily buy treacherous hw from 'clean' people
BingoBoingo: I kinda want an Apple II GS, i bet that can entropy without frying.
asciilifeform: 'voodoo' fear of 'ritually tainted' hardware is counterproductive.
asciilifeform: just that you should understand the implications.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As far as I can tell Khosala lives in Ft Meade
asciilifeform: it does not automatically follow that one should not buy xilinx
BingoBoingo: OMG Luke-Jr endorsed the MPEx model "<Luke-Jr> the last 2-3 years have demonstrated that people get scammed far more often on decentralised exchanges"
asciilifeform: it does not follow that nothing interesting can be done to the unsuspecting buyer
BingoBoingo: K, that might be relevant
asciilifeform: and that, while certain interesting classes of attack are impossible on an fpga,
asciilifeform: my point was that you end up trusting a big fat american duopoly when using modern fpga.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course. Tis why national govt chips are worth skipping when alternatives exist.
asciilifeform: i had the T1 running on a board around here somewhere. it works.
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, I think mike_c does
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: just describing some of the very different varieties of trap that can be set for a chip buyer
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I mean SPARC T1 cores are open source. Unless lisp machine I see little reason to not them.
asciilifeform: on the other hand, the 'listens for magic packet on radio, using power rail as antenna, and shorts power rail to ground when received' can be fit into any ic
asciilifeform: (fpga has no idea where the 'cache' will be on the fabric, or even that it will be configured as cpu rather than, say, decompressor)
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Do other people try to daytrade on web though.
asciilifeform: it is quite true that you cannot put this kind of trap in an fpga without making the whole thing look quite ridiculous even under an optical microscope.
asciilifeform: so, for instance, chinese cpu waits for the phrase 'tiananmen satoshi goatfuck' and shorts power rail to ground if this appears in the cache.
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, huh, doesn't seem likely to me
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is foolish to consider diddled cpus without having a picture of the actual possibilities in mind.
Apocalyptic: by "it" you mean the API ?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Every now and then t reverts to displaying stats from days earlier. Hard to describe
Apocalyptic: doesn't surprise me tbh
BingoBoingo: I want to get a bird and name it Preet
BingoBoingo: Seriously how many "BTC Olds" were in the gox fold
BingoBoingo: Imma be disappointed if MP can't make a dungeo session bout this http://dpaste.com/1668650/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine don't buy CPUs, but buy understood FPGAs and force them into an acceptable image
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so, which country are we to buy cpus in
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I see no reason why chinese government should be more trustworthy than usg
BingoBoingo: What I want to know is now that MOPS based OpenRISC is very mature why can't I get a 4 ghz laptop with one of those.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine most arm licensees practically throw away the ARM cores they paid for licenses to fab
asciilifeform: one can try to play 'whack-a-mole' (playing as the mole) with the customs, and some people do.
asciilifeform: this is how it typically works
asciilifeform: a photo will be added to the handy binder customs officials keep
asciilifeform: but as soon as the western rights holders complain
dignork: asciilifeform what would be the excuse for confiscation? lack of certifications?
benkay: isn't it rather the fear of being found at customs rather than the actual searches?
asciilifeform: just as soviet pdp-11s would've been, if anyone had wanted them.
asciilifeform: if you try to bring a crate of these to u.s., germany, etc. it will be confiscated at customs.
asciilifeform: it isn't so much that it uses 'too many' pirated bits, but the price point per se
asciilifeform: now, the very educational question of why you cannot easily buy this phone in u.s.
asciilifeform: as in, what it'd cost to produce it given that you're china or ussr and piss on copyrights/patents
asciilifeform: i haven't the exact figures, but the actual (physical) unit cost for most ICs is very small.
benkay: how much does that run?
asciilifeform: benkay: also it 'cheats' by being 'by chinese, for chinese' - none of that paying royalties for 'arm' nonsense, etc.
BingoBoingo: decimation: He probably isn't wrong. People need to see the retard spewing from ##mtgox-statement
decimation: So apparently MP thinks the whole thing was an insider scam run mostly be Vessenes. It's sad that the early history of bitcoin occulted by such villainy.
BingoBoingo: They see /me trollin' THey hatin'
BingoBoingo: decimation: For a couple of weeks that was allowable, but only as a "most charitable reading which would still leave them insolvent"
asciilifeform: imho, MP's version is the most plausible one so far.
decimation: well, do we believe the 'we forgot to check if the transactions were actually valid' yarn?
BingoBoingo: Herp and Derp have to lose their coin somehow.
BingoBoingo: I've seen Ghostbusters, the Keymaster always does alright. Even if herp and derp don't
asciilifeform: why would anyone believe the 'lost key' yarn
asciilifeform: 1) open bank 2) 'lose' deposit boxes full of gold 'in the sea' 3) ??? 4) profit
decimation: so you buy the 'lost key' story
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: decimation: As far as I can tell its horde is lost to Derp and Herp
BingoBoingo: Fuck it, I'm just adapting No. 44 to blog
BingoBoingo: I can't try to read a part in this god damned score without singing it to proofread my alterations.
BingoBoingo: I totally shouldn't have drank before writing this upcoming blog post.
asciilifeform: the fact that the bits on a disk belong to the fellow with the keys to the room is somehow lost on them.
asciilifeform: decimation: what kind of fool would believe... << quite a few people. ask them, not me.
BingoBoingo: decimation: The Messiah has 53 pieces, #44 is the Hallelujah chorus
BingoBoingo: decimation: Th winkelviie and Secondmarket may have Gox losses
decimation: Bingo surely the winklevii didn't keep their coins on Gox right?
decimation: Part 2 has the Hallelujah chorus right?
decimation: although that's a neat how-to manual
decimation: ascii what kind of fool would believe they have any security when someone else controls the hardware?
BingoBoingo: Anyone in this channel remember the user midnightmagic ???
BingoBoingo: the20year: That actually sounds more interesting than the part where you buy dumps
the20year: I know it doesn't make a difference to any of you, but I managed to come up with a mobile lighting solution for doing video inside the dumps we're buying
BingoBoingo: He only does this maybe twice a week, let him rest.
BingoBoingo: the20year: It is his bedtime for the week
BingoBoingo: In true siliconvalley tradition
asciilifeform: what the hell is circle.com
BingoBoingo: This is the internet, everything is messy
diametric: and then Circle.com got one too
asciilifeform: '9gag' ? sounds like the kind of delaying tactic the man is famous for.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Join, log, have lulz to dump later
diametric: and that he tried to slip that message in the IRC interview by posting a 9gag image and specifically mentioning 9gag when he linked the url
diametric: the latest trend is that Mark is under a gag order
diametric: not that i'm aware of
asciilifeform: diametric: is there a public log?
diametric: especially the guy that dropped like $5k on goxbtc through bb
BingoBoingo: So ##mtgox-statement is a lulzy channel of the moment
BingoBoingo: Well cold as it is this time of year, generally you can dig rabbit, minimal pulling required
asciilifeform: if the rabbit is in the hat, you can pull it out of the hat.