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mircea_popescu: someone betting after
the event is known seems something.
wbaw: you really shouldn't still be accepting bets, it's just
to
take fees for nothing or skew
the odds
mircea_popescu: anyway, don't sweat it, i'm sure you'll have it by
tomorrow, whatever it is.
mircea_popescu: yeah but once you'll graduate
to restaurants you'll maybe notice you order and
then wait
wbaw: when i pay for a burger at mcdonalds
they usually give me one
mircea_popescu: huge companies
they are everywhere, but still, much in
the way mcdonalds is a huge company :
wbaw: they're huge companies here in
the uk
mircea_popescu: generally all
those i've seen are dingy affairs in
the poor parts of
town,
wbaw: you need
the details of
the bet
wbaw: mircea_popescu,
they keep a record of all
the bets
mircea_popescu: and
to
take
this full seinfeld, what if you accidentally get
triple-action moisturizer with uva on your
ticket and now it's illegible ?
wbaw: there are 5 or 6 within a short walk, but i
think william hill is
the only one
that
takes random bets like
this
wbaw: then i go
to a shop with more staff
wbaw: when
the result is known
mircea_popescu: Duffer1
that's basically why people need lawyers for. average joe can't possibly summon all
the needed gall for even
trivial legal proceedings
mircea_popescu: so you go
to
the shop around
the corner and what happens ?
Duffer1: i know, i'm just shocked at
the gall
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 not really in
their interest
to include everything.
wbaw: how official does it need
to be if
their company lawyer announcing it outside a court isn't enough?
wbaw: and he has a shop around
the corner from me
wbaw: i'll ask william hill next
time
wbaw: at least its a warning not
to use
the site again & stick with reputable bookmakers
wbaw: it's an hour since
the announcement
wbaw: and not let people bet after
the outcome is known
mircea_popescu: wbaw you know
they'll refund bets
that are late anyway
mircea_popescu: this is now
the revolving window of finance and government.
wbaw: jurov, could you bet on a football match after
the result is known?
wbaw: ... Yes prevails if
there is an official announcement of
the end of operations
wbaw: TOKYO—A lawyer for Mt. Gox announced at a news conference at
the
Tokyo District Court
that
the embattled bitcoin exchange was filing for bankruptcy protection and
that Mt. Gox had outstanding debt of about ¥6.5 billion ($63.6 million).
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic for instance
the bitcoinica executors, couldn't care less about
the btc.
jurov: Listing BTC
that are left on
the papers and
trying
to pay
them out would be Karpeles goodwill attempt, nothing more.
jurov: Apocalyptic: why irrelevant? bankruptcy law applies only
to fiat, it says nothing about BTC. Attempts
to shoehorn BTC in
there can be disastrous.
Apocalyptic: <jurov> if i had usd-only position at
time of bankruptcy //
that's kinda irrelevant
Apocalyptic: <jurov> and even if, what is
the fair btc price here? // hard
to find a definitive answer here, but you can still can pick a reasonable one
jurov: and let
them do
their job
jurov: yes, put
the link into bitbet comment
wbaw: that seems
to satisfy
the bet?
kakobrekla: mods close
the bets when it needs
to be, you can leave
them a message on bitbet comments
wbaw: so is
the bet closed or what?
kakobrekla: o look, now you are on
two of my screens :)
jurov: and even if, what is
the fair btc price here?
jurov: if i had usd-only position at
time of bankruptcy, why should i share my claim with people who had btc-only positions?
Apocalyptic: mircea, wasn't aware, what case are you referring
to ?
jurov: that has potential
to create a mess
Apocalyptic: they wouldn't need
to get
them, just price
them in
the liability sheets
jurov: where would
they get bitcoins
to resolve liabilities otherwise?
jurov: Apocalyptic:
there isn't any other way
dexX7: what's
the context? was
there any statement about a potential fiat bailout?
Apocalyptic: hum
that could set a precedent about btc liabilities during liquidations
wao-ender: and ddos was yday on
their
twitter
HeySteve2: mircea_popescu, please private me regarding
the news if I don't respond here
mircea_popescu: word of warning
to
the news people following : it's gonna be pretty massive.
mircea_popescu: so i'm hammering out
the mpoe announcement for
this month.
ozbot: This is
the story of your loss.
anddam: math is ideal, at least
the one
that was
taught
to me
davout: anddam: what's
to
tell me it doesn't compound in weird ways ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the concept here is
that math will have
to suit
the
task, not
the othjer way around
davout: anddam: "does anyone know about some spreadhseet software
that uses decimals instead of floats?" <<< hence
the question :D
benkay`: i will come harp at you over rounding errors of less
than a satoshi anddam
anddam: davout: I don't but is rounding error with floats
that important?
davout: mircea_popescu:
thanks! i'll have a look
benkay`: if you look sideways at
the
TATINVESTMENTS logo you can see a WTF
mircea_popescu: davout wasn't open office settable
to use fixed point ?
FabianB: btcoincharts is probably
the only one
that works without js
davout: does anyone know about some spreadhseet software
that uses decimals instead of floats?
mircea_popescu: "Load failed, retry after 5 seconds. Probably Reason BitcoinWisdom is
temporary down Domain is not bitcoinwisdom.com Network issue"
anddam: benkay`:
troll as in fishing?
benkay`: anddam you
troll for money?
anddam: actually
there are a few on btctalk but
the
tone of
threads is childish more often
than not
anddam: will keep
that in mind
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell duffer1 hey, you have a compatriot here : anddam
benkay`: kinda hard
to believe, but
true.
benkay`: hey everyone did you know
that real companies are built on professionally curated data feeds?
mircea_popescu: what is everyone's favourite bitcoin charting service
these days ?
mircea_popescu: scams don't go away anymore,
they just age and reemerge, goat style.
mircea_popescu: "Great job on
the Bitblu website. It looks awesome, even in beta!! Can't wait
to
try it out "