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mircea_popescu: well... fuck. why didn't i thinl of that.
mircea_popescu: i want all chicks to be taller.
ThickAsThieves: it'd echo thru all things
ThickAsThieves: i guess the core of this, is i just want everyone to be more intelligent and logical
decimation: mircea, you would give the Devil the benefit of law?
ThickAsThieves: can he evaluate that i was?
mircea_popescu: that's why he has the law : to not have to do qm
ThickAsThieves: like a highway stop for 10mph too fast
ThickAsThieves: why iis the law beig enforced
mircea_popescu: the tension is still there, you merely force people into hypocrisy
ThickAsThieves: if they are helping no one
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you resolve nothing with this bandaid.
ThickAsThieves: an officer's job is to help
ThickAsThieves: other than to observe when law goes absurd
ThickAsThieves: i'm thinking out loud here, neve rput much thought into this topic
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Grunt has to challenge an officer's fitness and take their place http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KlingonPromotion
ThickAsThieves: the curation is in the lawmaking
mircea_popescu: which in turn limits overal complexity in your system
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i mean this : that your approach imposes a limit on the complexity of relationships in your society
mircea_popescu: he doesn't carry weight in this discussion
BingoBoingo: The slut's free reign comes at cost to the father.
mircea_popescu: if the slut is not allowed free reign, civil war is unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: if the slut is allowed free rein, you have just destroyed the separation.
ThickAsThieves: anything too complicated to be enforced cannot be law
ThickAsThieves: how about you have simple laws that simple men can enforce
BingoBoingo: Loses their commision
mircea_popescu: you may not readily appreciate the immensity of this problem.
BingoBoingo: I imagine in that case the officer get dismissed
BingoBoingo: For the policeman you take the local schlubs and have the officers discipline them
mircea_popescu: so then suppose one day a police officer's daughter falls in love with a lowly police grunt.
decimation: I guess the traditional method is from the children of the local nobles
BingoBoingo: For the police officer you search for people who can maintain their own harem.
mircea_popescu: well, how do i get these then ?
BingoBoingo: I imagine for a proper police force for Jormania, you would at least need two castes working for you. Police Officers and then the lowly police man.
asciilifeform: the policeman acts on the authority of the master << that's 'potentas' not 'auctoritas' !
decimation: if the policeman acts responisbly, he is rewarded, otherwise, punished
mircea_popescu: well say the population is 1mn.
decimation: the master hires a policeman, the policeman acts on the authority of the master
asciilifeform: what's the word - anyone?
mircea_popescu: suppose you're advising me as emperor of jormania in the making of my imperial police force.
mircea_popescu: decimation explai nhow this actual police force works.
decimation: an actual police force would allocate actual discretion to its officers; chumpatron police have no authority and therefore treat others as the spoiled children they are
ThickAsThieves: "You are free to choose to participate in the poll or not. Nobody is begging you for your money and I wish we could avoid asking for anyone's money at all to avoid dealing with investors such as yourself. Hopefully if we succeed in listing IPO we will not have you on our investor's list."
ThickAsThieves: i think he rides every car''s ass, but generally is a better driver
mircea_popescu: i remember a time when officer was a superlative menschkeit thing
ThickAsThieves: my wife thinks a drive too slow, except when i don't see nonsensical speed signs
asciilifeform: alternative is the russian (and most of the world) system, where you can pay him to go away
decimation: officer is in the bureaucrat chumpatron
ThickAsThieves: agreed, and i think an officer should be human enough to interpret whether someone is actually endangering a situation, over filling a quota for tickets
asciilifeform: in the u.s. speed limits are a bizarrely labour-intensive kind of tax.
decimation: the speed people actually travel on a road has to do with its design, not the arbitrary (often retarded) regulatory limits
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, that reasoning doesn't work in a town (because if you go fast enough whether you run into someone or not becomes a matter of luck), but it does make sense of highways
ThickAsThieves: there's a stretch of highway about 2 miles long in FL, where the limit changes 16 times
decimation: "A poll by the General Social Survey indicates that about 1/3 of Americans trust each other. This is a big step downward from a 1972 survey that indicated that about ½ of Americans trust each other. Around 2/3rds say that ?you can?t be too careful? dealing with others. "
ozbot: Academic-Capital: Trust of Each Other is Declining According to a General Social Survey
mircea_popescu: and the clowds did billow smoke"
mircea_popescu: "and then i saw a great vision of everyone's head being screwed in backwards
ThickAsThieves: i think about how even the concept of getting pulled over while driving is usually absurd
mircea_popescu: the book of doom after tat
ThickAsThieves: except right now everyone thinks all the scams are truths and truths are scams
asciilifeform: decimation: not much risk of this
decimation: once everyone assumes that everything is a scam or chumpatron, it's going to be hard to get anything done
mircea_popescu: what was the expression, "roof" ?
ThickAsThieves: how the fuck *is* someone supposed to be responsible to know what is legal when the line is nothing but blur
ThickAsThieves: <decimation> actually the current state of affairs is perfect for the bureaucracy: no one knows what is actually legal, and everyone is probably an outlaw /// too true
mircea_popescu: till the air runs out
mircea_popescu: like you know, the state of being locked into the cake freezer seems ideal to the 9yo
mircea_popescu: decimation this only seems perfect. it's in fact disastrous.
decimation: actually the current state of affairs is perfect for the bureaucracy: no one knows what is actually legal, and everyone is probably an outlaw
ThickAsThieves: seems harmless to them, whatre a buncha potheads gonna do
asciilifeform: all this is is an attempt to tax an already plentiful and omnipresent supply of mj
mircea_popescu: if there's going to be a soyuz of the soviets organised within our lifetimes over there i'll possibly not be able to carry on for laughter
asciilifeform: the bastards know this, and so all the easements are sham
decimation: now that colorado has 'decriminalized' the other states are going to race to the bottom
mircea_popescu: so... another couple of these, they're going to end up with hostage senate.
mircea_popescu: it's relatively easy living french peasants that get an easement, which suddenly makes all restraints unbearable
asciilifeform: the sardines are already doped to the gills
mircea_popescu: as per tocqueville's observation, it's not opressed peasants like the german serfs that rebel
mircea_popescu: easements like this are very fucking dangerous
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is this : they have 6-7-8 mn people packed like sardines in there, like 5k/km2
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'legalization' thing is a sham. it's quite like, if drinking a cup of coffee were punished with $25 fine, but anyone found with a sack of coffee beans were impaled
mircea_popescu: they are going to lose fucking control of that place.
mircea_popescu: decimation eventually someone will write the grand book of everything, just distil all the 500k lines here into a castle of words.
ThickAsThieves: The Washington DC City Council voted today to significantly ease marijuana laws in the district. By a near unanimous vote, the council ruled that possession and private consumption of the drug in small amounts would be decriminalized.
ozbot: Mind your step. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/mind-your-step/ too
decimation: I find that after reading an -assets log my mind returns to the original ideas contained therein
mircea_popescu: decimation is like the lord of the quotes tonight
mircea_popescu: just, the vc circus hasn't yet found out, because we don't finance the circus.
copumpkin: anyone want to start a petition to mircea_popescu to get the word popescuity added back to mpex official messages?
ninjashogun: e.g. rather than raise $250K via an angel investor, or $4M in a Series A, that both of these could be done 100% via the bitcoin ecosystem?
ninjashogun: so I didn't realize how much money is sloshing around the bitcoin ecosystem. Question: do you think with WoT this ecosystem (e.g. this channel, etc) could substitute for the actual VC market completely?
decimation: I thought that there was a parallel there
decimation: the one with the two monks well delinates orthodox Christianity from rapid puritanism
ninjashogun: decimation, why did you quote that?
mircea_popescu: ya but it's probably not in the wot.
decimation: asciilifeform I quite enjoy your translations of Herr Tepes
moiety: sorry im too wasted fromthe last imgur
moiety: omg what am i thinking
kakobrekla: but you need the tv for it to project the drugs