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moiety: someone sent r3wt to me yesterday :/
Namworld: Someone should calculate that.
Namworld: oh, that too.
Namworld: 132x value in fiat. It was better than holding BTC.
peterl: right, this is btc accounting instead of Usagi accounting
mircea_popescu: peterl well technically, it's at least > 9000x zero
Namworld: We both missed a ton on the BTC rate increase.
Namworld: Arij helped a lot too.
peterl: psh, only 32% that is nowhere near 100x!
peterl: which we are grateful you saved that for us
Namworld: I had to help with BitVPS which RG just abandoned like that. Buy servers and everything. Stuff like that. Losses vs just holding.
mircea_popescu: no because that's like scientology.
Namworld: It's been rough, especially with the 15 -> 1200 run in 2013. How is one supposed to beat 100x returns on just holding through investing?
Namworld: I might be close to achieving that back tho.
Namworld: Well i started with 900 BTC in early 2012. Lost most. Definitly don't have that much.
dexX7: labcoin was a more exciting way to lose money
mircea_popescu: you still in the hole with giga/amazingrando huh
Namworld: Considering the first thing I did was lend over 700 BTC to a GPU miner thinking it was just 7 grand and the current price per BTC, I'm not close of having positive earnings on average per year.
mircea_popescu: and with that the story ends.
mircea_popescu: normally i'd say "i wish to meet that elated 1% of bitcoin financiers which actually make 2% a year", but i think i already have.
dexX7: well, such a fee level is at least motivating the issuer to perform well
Namworld: I'm about 175 BTC in debt and I'm richer than him still.
peterl: "privately placed" does that mean "I just made up whatever numbers I want"?
mircea_popescu: there's no 2k there, more like 2-300 btc
mircea_popescu: that's the first hour.
dexX7: i think he indeed sold quite a few shares
mircea_popescu: so what was the ticker, anyoe know that ?
peterl: I think it was all privately done, so there is no way to actually track what he says
mircea_popescu: Apr 13 11:01:55 <`MBot>[ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 98 x 1.0 = 98.000000 BTC ]
mircea_popescu: Apr 13 11:00:40 <`MBot>[ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 2 x 0.99999 = 1.999980 BTC ]
mircea_popescu: a actually btct, should be in the logs
mircea_popescu: well, so did anyone actually bother to track this BTC-GROWTH marvel ?
dexX7: well, you're the incarnation of teh evil anyway :D
mircea_popescu: that's what threw me, cause i had no recollection of the entire thing
mircea_popescu: a so im not actually in there/saying anything
dexX7: thus no link to the log
dexX7: my intent wasn't to share the content of the log
mircea_popescu: can you link to log ?
dexX7: it's legit, names edited and a few lines removed though
mircea_popescu: dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3650952#msg3650952 how come i have not that log ?
mircea_popescu: of the sort uppity tortilla rest sin
mircea_popescu: i think he spends some time as a princess in a special happy place
benkay: it's not my shopping list - i don't do the shopping, moiety.
moiety: i wondered wherehe disappeared to
benkay: overheard in my household this morning "paycheck and a buttplug! the only grocery list you'll ever need."
Diablo-D3: surprised he isnt trying to invest in my newest venture or some shit
mircea_popescu: would have assured "investors" "make roi and then some" or what was the expression
mircea_popescu: asicminer went from 5 to .5, so therefore my deadbeat "investment" which went from 1 to .3 in the interval
Diablo-D3: I thought he ragequit
mircea_popescu: "In retrospect, it's quite funny how some of the folks laughed at those selling ASICMiner to buy into BTC Growth, given that at the end of the day, those who adopted exactly that strategy wound up with roughly 275% as much money in their accounts than those who stuck with the former darling of the mining world."
moiety: i need to food actually
moiety: I'm well ty mircea_popescu :) had some interesting times past couple days. how are you?
mircea_popescu: unless they manage to invent some further pathology down the way
mircea_popescu: before you know it he'll be going "i stake my professional reputation !!eleven behind making this thing i read on trilema two weeks ago happen!" like that other douche
mircea_popescu: anyway, if the guy's reading the logs that's not so bad, first step on the road to sanity.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 lol we're the empire of evil nao ?
mircea_popescu: <Namworld> Mark will now say it's not him but the hackers who just released the info. He might be the thief and the releaser of info. << hence the "Rational, +EV move" comment earlier.
peterl: hard to put a good wall of text up on IRC
benkay: probly reads the logs but can't extemporize.
dexX7: peterl: no joke, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3649693#msg3649693 "Maybe it was a different user named 'dexX7' who was hobnobbing with TAT, Mircea Popescu and others on IRC ..."
benkay: this is much like asciilifeform's refrain about "trusted computing" on top of compromised hardware. all the proofs in the world won't save you from bad hardware in the memory stack, and all the quant kabbalah in the world won't make you money on non-functional options exchanges.
peterl: oops, now he is going to target me!
benkay: peterl: it's not his strategy that's wrong, it's his implementation details. like icbit.
dexX7: he also reads the channel logs to see, if someone is saying something mean about him
peterl: MPOE-PR ripped him pretty good, but he still thinks he beat her with his wall of words
Namworld: Pirates, okay, but I didn't know there was Ponzi doctors too.
Namworld: Dr. Greg thread? What?
Namworld: Mark will now say it's not him but the hackers who just released the info. He might be the thief and the releaser of info.
peterl: from the dr. greg thread "the approach continues to offer guaranteed profit up until a roughly 350% gain " he lost money but still thinks his strategy should have huge returns?
Namworld: Don't forget that MtGox's API published transactions as close as this morning, Diablo-D3.
dexX7: kinda interesting though that the block entry is still online
mircea_popescu: that's the 3rd.
mircea_popescu: actually i think that works in russian too
mircea_popescu: peterl well it's a combination of things. he looks kind-of weird, and behaves like a negligible quantity
peterl: how did he get the name Dr. Foreskin? Or do I want to know?
mircea_popescu: see the earlier linked misadventure of dr foreskin on the topic
punkman: even Dr Greg doesn't want to use them anymore
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i doubt there's much overlap in demographics.
mircea_popescu: let the record reflect that i'm working on a foot long baba ghanoush sub
dexX7: well, it's a probably a good thing to get rid of the weak elements
KRS-One: i still can't believe this is happening... mtgox hacked.. all leaked.. karpeles blog, his reddit account
gribble: MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/>; MPOE, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-january-2014-statement/>; MPOE, December 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-december-2013-statement/>
thestringpuller: ;;google site: trilema.com february 2014 mpoe
dexX7: what was the reason to halt option trading?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu random thought: i wonder if the halt in options trading on MPEX will result in a lot of people flocking to ICBIT...kind of a scary thought...
dexX7: sssh shh i want to hear teh sec gossip
thestringpuller: dexX7: I'm pretty sure mircea_popescu has female assassin ninjas guarding the mpex keyring
mircea_popescu: now that's not possible.
dexX7: i think it's your obligation to be transparent on such incidents. who knows, maybe they have backend access to mpex now :p
mircea_popescu: trying to do their job, i guess.
mircea_popescu: well that's not particularly clear yet.
dexX7: what did they want, what are the implications etc ;)
dexX7: there is the part missing between "to: ... and yes they"
dexX7: well then, tell us more
mircea_popescu: Namworld isn't it interesting how "since then" and "when mp said" coincide huh.
mircea_popescu: and yes they do read the forum, tho they only understand about half
mircea_popescu: dexX7 and to a number of people
Namworld: Looks like they were running fractional since then.
dexX7: ah speaking of the sec. did they reach out to you, mp?
Namworld: 400k Mark proved ownership after the 2011 hack.