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nubbins`: you saw something that was a good idea and you bought in. that's not privilege, it's sense
bitcoinpete: and there's more. it's fuckin privilege day
mircea_popescu: that's the point of fucking bitcoin : to put privilege above the reach of the unprivileged.
nubbins`: one of the nice things about privilege is that you don't need to be aware of it
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is like distilled privilege what the fuck is she on about.
bitcoinpete: "t’s not essential, or possible, that the privilege crowd fully understand bitcoin or that the bitcoin crowd fully understand privilege. What would be very helpful, however, is for both parties to admit the vast sums which comprise what they do not know."
bitcoinpete: "Bitcoin enthusiasts don’t generally spend any time thinking about privilege. But greater computer literacy among the poor and easier-to-use interfaces, along with addressing tech’s gender problems should be a goal we all strive toward."
nubbins`: ...i didn't think you could put them together like that
nubbins`: i know all those words, but...
ozbot: Meet the Gay Black Republican Selling Guns Online for Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i thought that was genetically impossible
mircea_popescu: which jesus is this one, #6 ?
ninjashogun: "Bitcoin was not created by Satashi Nakamoto, but by another man of the same name."
bitcoinpete: conan was only indicative of where the middle is, or isn't
ThickAsThieves: "The discontentment is also there when he talks about the first time he was arrested, at 18"
ThickAsThieves: “The U.S. is making it extremely difficult for me to stop being American.”
ThickAsThieves: "Satoshi Nakamoto — who, it turns out, is an elderly Japanese man by the same name, "
ThickAsThieves: "I have sworn not to write the name of the island where Roger Ver is currently residing, the reason being that he fears for his life."
ThickAsThieves: see that's funny
ozbot: The ballad of “Bitcoin Jesus”: The tech millionaire who fears for his life - Salon.com
ThickAsThieves: yeah the coco thing isnt funny
Diablo-D3: Lets light this guy on fire for being a heretic.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: the dissolution begins
ThickAsThieves: what is this convention?
Diablo-D3: who the fuck is markus ortman
ozbot: Bitcoin's COO Explains What Bitcoin Is @ TeamCoco.com
bitcoinpete: Markus Ortman, "COO of Bitcoin", explains all to Conan:
ozbot: Georgia Becomes First State in History to Pass the Convention of States Application | Convention of
mircea_popescu: Georgia Becomes First State in History to Pass the Convention of States Application
nubbins`: this, a thousand times this
ninjashogun: The main reason I ask here is because it is people who are technical (almost by definition), have early vision and interest (almost by definition) and in many cases have enough funds that they can consider helping me on such a basis. Some people ahve been interested but the amount is too larger for them, I understand but that is nto the kind of person I'm lookiing for.
ninjashogun: So, it was not people, it was one person, and he didn't leave but continues to express 'definite' interest (we've prepared loan paperwork, etc). I!ve pressed several times for a firm closure and he's repeated definite interest (instead of taking the chance to say, look, it's not that interesting to him)
ThickAsThieves: why did the last people leave?
ninjashogun: I am looking for something similar to what I found before, which is someone who is interested in exploring the idea with me and would do so without necessarily having any big personal interest in it, other than obviously not losing money on it.
nubbins`: why are you wasting your time asking over and over?
nubbins`: it's like a child convincing dad that a can of frosting is a good idea for lunch
nubbins`: and you try to argue that it's in their best interest to do so
nubbins`: people tell you precisely why they will never, ever give you money
nubbins`: same thing every time
ninjashogun: It's not an "idea', first of all, I'm working on a company that was founded mroe than a year ago and has assigned IP as well as fullz developed prototypes that prove concept, using vision, some robotics elements, arduino, etc.
ninjashogun: nubbins`, but nubbins doesn't mean anything to me either.
nubbins`: and generally, adults don't give free money to nobodies with "ideas"
nubbins`: it's the fact that YOU are saying it
ninjashogun: (those are just two examples of the tech I've used.)
ninjashogun: nubbins`, that's not true. I guarantee 100% that there are people int his channel who know what vision algorithms are, and what electronics engineering and embedded programmigng are. 100% guaranteed.
nubbins`: bitcoin is littered with the corpses of people who had better ideas and more resources than you
nubbins`: ninjashogun: you need to realize that what you're saying means nothing to anyone here
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ninjashogun: nubbins` - fair enough. I've personally developed the proof of concept using vision software as well as embedded electronics with an arduino
ThickAsThieves: loans are generally something to be unenthusiastic about
nubbins`: at least you keep trying
ninjashogun: it's the same thing - something marketable that needs something up-front. You can't just ask people to speculate, you should extend the possibility of a loan to cover information asymmetry and personal responsibiilty. I wouldn't be gamblign with otehr people's money
nubbins`: because i have no reason to believe that you're capable of anything besides hanging around here and bumming for money
nubbins`: less than enthusiastic
ninjashogun: nubbins`, how do you feel about a personal loan to develop a proprietary hardware tech past proof of concept stage?
nubbins`: you want one to get your PhD in history? get fucked
nubbins`: you want a student loan to learn a skilled trade? sure, here ya go
nubbins`: TBH i don't think they should give loans for degrees/diplomas in navel gazing
nubbins`: hope the photography "course" was worth it ;p
nubbins`: think about that -- paying off a $25,000 loan at $33/mo
nubbins`: asciilifeform: she defaulted on her federal loans and has her wages garnishes, that's why she's only paid back $2k in 5 years
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu would appear to be right, none of the traditional 'bubbling of rebellion' is happening, as far as i can see
asciilifeform: or at least service the fellow who does
asciilifeform: surely that girl could learn to pull a trigger, for example.
mircea_popescu: perhaps it'd cost more to learn than they're worth.
asciilifeform: perhaps they could learn.
mircea_popescu: no such thing.
asciilifeform: how do you know they will << hey don't look at me, i'm not their lenin. naturally i don't know. but historical parallels.
mircea_popescu: no, they're disintegrating lepers.
mircea_popescu: how do you know they will ?
asciilifeform: these folks aren't disintegrating lepers, they're able-bodied creatures who could in principle create actual problems if they felt like it.
asciilifeform: at some point the lost souls will add up to a destructive mess, the question is when.
mircea_popescu: hi guise im eleven and what is this11
asciilifeform: (for the nitpickers, notice that i said 'profit!1!!1', not 'profit.')
mircea_popescu: chetty_ tons of single guys with delusions of leadership, self-importance and whatever else makes maybe a ton of twitter accounts
asciilifeform: mass in the physical sense, perhaps
mircea_popescu: a two tone brochure i can have made in a half hour
chetty_: well tons of single guys does sorta make a mass ....something
mircea_popescu: gimme the seattle bladers association
mircea_popescu: i'd love nothing more than contact with a large club of street people, but these muppets ain't it.
ThickAsThieves: BitPremier is one of the logos
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's tons of these outfits consisting of basically one guy and his adobe illustrator pretending to be in some form mass movements.
mircea_popescu: "Love what your doing but I see you do not send to the UK. My company are about to leash a few ATMs on the UK and would love to get a hold of perhaps your ai or pdf so I could print some off to give to everyone who is attending our launch in Feb."
ThickAsThieves: so these bigfoot guys wanna promote bitcoin on the streets or whatever, and this is the brochure they come up with... http://bitcoinbigfoot.com/showcasing-plan-b-brochure-mock/
chetty_: I gave up reading about it, its all disinfo anyway, I just liked that headline
chetty_: I'll hang you by the balls and have you f***ed' – Ukrainian presidential hopeful abducts pro-Russian MP
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your chick's not putting a machine gun in the middle for the same reason she's not getting laid
mircea_popescu: i'll trade ya http://25.media.tumblr.com/21b2acb5bf1b8edc7b9633e6ee0acc72/tumblr_mqayfocu1s1rg2jxoo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: big empty space in the middle for DSHK.
ThickAsThieves: “Zero transaction fees is the future,” Li said. According to him, the freemium business model is the new norm of the twenty-first century, and no industry, not even financial services, is safe from its disruption.
asciilifeform: i meant - of the boatgirls.
mircea_popescu: they're doing it because a fool and his resources are soon partying, and once the party's over they'll just go back home and start their own renaissances.
mircea_popescu: which is actually the greatest boon on the developing world : all those mexicans, arabs etc leeching the welfare states aren't doing it so they may be us or eu citizens etc
mircea_popescu: curretnly the mass migrations are from sane places to idiotic places,
asciilifeform: where are the mass migrations
asciilifeform: if starving boat grls, where the hell are the jacqueries, i ask.
mircea_popescu: well no, but that's besides the point : they are all excess, as per your definition.
mircea_popescu: it's like "it never ceases to amaze me how the impotent never rape anyone". well of course not. if they could they wouldn't be impotent.
asciilifeform: it never ceases to amaze me how the 'excess people' make so little trouble, 'going gently into the good night'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that looks like it could propel the boat, in a spot.