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mircea_popescu: if they have the time to freeze 100k worth of options.
mircea_popescu: so what i want to know is, how many accounts that traded on the pre-gaap release were frozen by the sexc
ozbot: SEC.gov | SEC Freezes Assets in Swiss-Based Account Used in Suspected Insider Trading Ahead of Hein
mircea_popescu: that's the link
the20year2: tesla's was way more than a few million
the20year2: how big was the loss/gain on the berkshire stuff?
mircea_popescu: quite scandalous, at least to my eye.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, tesla creates random info disparities, nobody cares.
mircea_popescu: but look here : some people bought options, in switzerland. they had their accounts frozen and they were required to... prove!!! they didn't trade on insider info.
the20year2: Yeah , i don't know though if it's illegal to issue non-gaap reports
mircea_popescu: cause they were too busy confiscating the money of traders who had bought options on berkshire
mircea_popescu: and the sec never investigated
the20year2: Although in the case of tesla, they issued the non-gaap a few hours before gaap and gained an extra $50/share
the20year2: an0 looks pretty simple, and my idea was to publish something non-gaap anyways since i don't think we can count bitcoin in that, and we'll always have btc balances onhand, so I planned on issuing non-gaap reports at the same time the gaap ones were done (TSLA does that)
the20year2: If we use GAAP it makes it easier to transition to a public corp
mircea_popescu: but by all means, try the experiment
mircea_popescu: 10x the effort, hardly any extra benefit delivered
mircea_popescu: the20year2 i'll bet you you'll be giving up on the gaap style within 12 reporting periods
the20year2: I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to publish an0 + gaap reports
nubbins`: for all the good it does
joecool: only two types of places ever gave me shit
dexX7: nubbins`: "please ask for photo id" - that's an awesome move
joecool: nubbins`: i've tested this theory, writing various things like "I STOLE THIS CARD" on the signature pad
nubbins`: pays for item in store, cashier looks at back, says "heh" and swipes the card
joecool: cause only one or two US issuers have chip and pin as an option
nubbins`: he says "watch this"
joecool: true heh, in canada i use magstripe and it throws off all the clerks
nubbins`: a friend of mine had "PLEASE ASK FOR PHOTO ID" on the signature panel of his credit card some years ago
nubbins`: grab a chip and pin card, rewrite the stripe, smash the chip with a ball-peen hammer
nubbins`: even places that use chip-and-pin will fallback to magstripe if there's a problem with the chip
joecool: oh sure yeah if you pull the old paypal-style MITM that's burned so many people in OTC
joecool: ie. if i walk into a store with a stolen magstripe you don't know i have, i can purchase goods and even if there's a chargeback, it only claws back from the store those goods were bought at
mircea_popescu: not what i meant. what i meant was, fraudster sells the merchandise to ignorant buyer, gets irreversible payment from him
joecool: mircea_popescu: skimmers are a bigger threat if you can duplicate the magstripe, but most non-US countries figured that out and went chip and pin
thestringpuller: but I don't think the proxy decrypts trades just announces
thestringpuller: i was talking more about an attacker getting access to mpex key via the proxy
mircea_popescu: joecool they do triangles.
joecool: thestringpuller: that would depend on whether the attacker actually received goods, if they ran a merchant account they'd have the money clawed back
thestringpuller: yea but the attacker wouldn't have profited directly on stealing people's money, mpex key is still guarded by naked lady ninja assassins
mircea_popescu: the fact you can reverse it doesn't mean it didn't fail thjo
joecool: mircea_popescu: not like a CC carries any sort of personal info other than name and address which are often already public record
joecool: mircea_popescu: it's fairly easily reversible, just claim the charges were fraud
joecool: mircea_popescu: cc over the phone is less bad in my opinion
thestringpuller: and profit on people trading on bad info
mircea_popescu: it's about as bad as "cc over the phone"
thestringpuller: and made it look like real trades
mircea_popescu: they need to cease this id-by-email bs.
thestringpuller: someone would have just manipulated the mpex trades
joecool: and even if the domain was with a US registrar it usually takes a month or two to go through the processes to get it back
joecool: i've seen more than a few domains get jacked from social engineering, the best are ones that clone the site, set up shop somewhere without many laws (romania?), then monetize the stolen site
mike_c: wait, wasn't that how mpex got down? somebody impersonated you to a proxy server admin?
ozbot: O hai let me verify your identity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: didja see the thing where they tried to hijack the dns via social engineering ?
mike_c: i take that to mean they aren' very successful
mircea_popescu: mike_c well people try occasionally.
mircea_popescu: whereas small players will have to retain the help of an investment banker, in which case they get auditing as a packaged deal anyway
mircea_popescu: the20year2 this dovetails nicely into your earlier curiosities re listing on mpex w/o an account. itstands to reason that large financial institutions that have their own account can keep their accounting straight ;
nubbins`: the answer is left as an exercise to the reader
joecool: consequences will never be the same
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is about the conseuqences of having lied.
the20year2: So, what prevents the organization from lying?
mircea_popescu: that's generally the way it goes, yes.
the20year2: So, financial reports are prepared by the company who issues them?
mircea_popescu: nobody cares what the scammers do.
mircea_popescu: an0 is accepted by the exchange doing 90%+ of all bitcoin financials.
mircea_popescu: what's so special about the gaap ?
mircea_popescu: that it's the bitcoin standard.
the20year2: Isn't the client maintained by the foundation?
dexX7: since when does create the foundation standards?
the20year2: When did the bitcoin foundation approve an0?
mircea_popescu: the20year2 the bitcoin standard is the an0.
mircea_popescu: if i ever watched tv perhaps that'd sound like a lot more.
the20year2: Are there any bitcoin businesses that are using GAAP-approved accounting?
dexX7: well, i can't say that anything i ever wrote lead to a tv serie
mircea_popescu: she's a sorta leah, and as we all know it sucks to be leah
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/CandaceBushnell.png omfg look at this troll
ozbot: The peeconomy pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: i thought this existed.
benkay: ipo it to the moon
dexX7: hey guise what do you think about a blockchain postcard service? users submit a message which is then posted via op_return. i bet some devs would love the idea! :D
mircea_popescu: there's no taper.
benkay: when does the taper even kick in?
benkay: so when do the big markets start to price in the taper?
benkay: plus, what do i look like, a trader?!
benkay: i've already decided on that strategy. i think rent plays are a red herring.
mike_c: hey benkay, did you ever end up making that rent short happen?
mike_c: what the hell is an air pot?
benkay: why can nobody do anything for themselves?
benkay: so what is to be done but put the empty one on the counter and pop the cherry on the new one
benkay: i go for coffe, she informs me that this air pot is empty
benkay: this morning at the café, some nice lady is standing next to the air pot, idling, hoping for attention
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how about linking bitbet bet income/outbound to blockr ?
dexX7: yesterday someone said this is trash. any insight why?
dexX7: i have no idea how it works under the hood
wao-ender: v0v, i'm there! so social
Apocalyptic: it's not like they can enforce anything at this point
Apocalyptic: <dexX7> somewhere in the reddit comments they said there will be some kind of authentification // well if someone regged the u/* entry i wonder how can they claim it back
mircea_popescu: meh there's in principle 5k "services" like that and no barrier to entry
dexX7: somewhere in the reddit comments they said there will be some kind of authentification. like: you claim you are mp and insert his twitter handle, but to proof it, you'd need to post a verification tweet
deadweasel: wow, takes 9 developers to display a QR code