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BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: It is a
talk of some kind. Just... when you name nobodies like Barrys and Larrys, you have
to mention what
they are
trying
to do.
Duffer1: you mean are
they going ahead with SMs bitcoin exchange?
MAKABEakira: apologies i was under impression
this was watercooler
talk everywhere. don't shoot
MAKABEakira: yet SM's exchange launch is
taken as a foregone conclusion.
MAKABEakira: nm i shdnt
type while on phone. Barry Silbert - SecondMarket
MAKABEakira: is barry seibert really going ahead with
this. last i heard it was a string of "we hope our partners"
this and "if regulation"
that, but so far,
tumbleweeds
BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: How lossy depends on
the person
mircea_popescu: guy's
target are people with short attention spans and limited memory space.
Duffer1: i doubt
the suckers he scammed have forgotten
Duffer1: When it comes
to markets and finance America is
the 'short bus'
that is slowing down global growth.
mircea_popescu: there's actually people who make it
their business
to organise a "photographic vacation"
mircea_popescu: by
the way, for whoever was wtfing about all
the nude shots :
moiety: why on earth is
that artists exhibitions list not in chronological order? site almost gave me ocd
mircea_popescu: it is a reasonably common name, so
there's a dozen or so other people by
the same name
BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: He's not
the Mircea Popescu
that does pottery if
that is your question
dexX7: B007: well i once paid a
tiny amount and can enjoy
trilema probably for lifetime.
that's comfort vs. "need
to reset my ip now and
then"
mircea_popescu: moiety "should have known", "reasonable person standard", "duty of care" etc etc.
the jurisprudence is
taller
than you,
moiety: mircea_popescu: how
to prove a publisher knew something was illegal when
they advertised it
though?
mircea_popescu: i mean some people are just deliberately being stupid, but in many more cases people just don't have
the info, at all.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i encourage people
to blog and so forth, make good info a little more accessible.
Duffer1: welcome
to
the club makabe
MAKABEakira: would have ff a lot of wtf if i found
trilema 6 months ago instead of last month. btc infospace is a formidable fog of war for newbs
B007: why is it more comfortable
to buy
than
to leech?
dexX7: nubbins`>
the point is
to make it annoying enough
to make you want
to spend
the dollar it
takes
to buy credits ;p < flip
the statement: it's more comfortable
to buy
than
to leech. kinda nice approach btw.
nubbins`: this was back before wireless routers were a common
thing
nubbins`: a local subsidiary of bell
that you've never heard of
nubbins`: couldn't give any less fucks
these days
nubbins`: i used
to be with
this ISP and if you connected a switch
to your dsl modem,
they'd give a public ip
to every connected machine
B007: and
then
there is
tor
B007: well one of
them yes
B007: it'd
take far more
time
to accually pay
mircea_popescu: 10 secs are, for most people in
the civilised world, worth more
than
the respective satoshis.
B007: new ssh
tunnel
takes me like 10 secs
nubbins`: the point is
to make it annoying enough
to make you want
to spend
the dollar it
takes
to buy credits ;p
mircea_popescu: B007
the point isn't really
to make it impossible
to get past.
dexX7: not like anyone made any effort
to hide what's
the website is about
mircea_popescu: dexX7 it's generally illegal
to advertise illegal activities in many jurisdictions
dexX7: if "investors" want
to play ponzi games, why not?
B007: mircea_popescu: your paywall on your blog is lel. and easy
to get past
BingoBoingo: benkay: It's when you
take a bit of coke an
touch it
to your gums
to see if it is coke or not
dexX7: why
the fuck should
this be "illegal"?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Well
the pirate case might
touch on
Thermos's responsibility as he said sure Pirate, you can start a
thread, allegedly
moiety: sounds like gum bumping
to me
moiety: also BingoBoingo re first comment in ponzi ad
thread...
theymos doesn't actually have legal responsibility in reality does he?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe
they need intel people for
their intel department?
moiety: hey i didn't know
there was a
thread! didn't
they
take enough crap regarding BFL ads?!?!
mircea_popescu: "Marc Andreessen favorited your
Tweets 11h: Reply
to @pmarca If your intel dept didn't stink, you'd know all about BitBet.
http://bitbet.us/ "
BingoBoingo: There was a
thread in Meta, I'll dig it up
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ponzis buying ads on
the forum openly is no new news.
moiety: i'm not sure how
to start it i just want it. does
that make any sense?
mircea_popescu: tho i don't seem
to find any proper proof, like signatures.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well for what it's worth
they seem
to more or less have moved a bunch of coins in november
mircea_popescu: good, cause on re-read
the first verion seemed
to me
to be making little sense if at all.
BingoBoingo: Well, bitcoin. It's hard
to
tell Buttstamp knew what an audit was, other
than having had one seemed like a good
thing.
mircea_popescu: these considerations sink
the entire
thing, either way. either way
they've lied, which means
they can't audit.
mircea_popescu: or else, it is in fact related, and for whatever reason
the respective disreputable russian group does not wish
to admit
to it. so it's more like a front.
mircea_popescu: these facts allow
two constructions : either firestartr is simply lying, and has no relation
to badoo any more
than it has
to skype
mircea_popescu: whereas skype, claimed by firestartr, is obviously not
theirs
to claim.
BingoBoingo: Well, when ButtStamp dies
this fall, I reckon people outside
the WoT will largely be outside of BTC forever.
mircea_popescu: also important,
that same group of russian folk run a number of other ventures, which are inexplicably absent from
the firestartr claims,
mircea_popescu: specifically,
their claim as
to be behind badoo is immediately suspect, seeing how a) badoo is not particularly a respectable venture and b) it is run by a certain group of russian folk, well known
to be disreputable.
mircea_popescu: this copy fails
the form
test, and more importantly makes some claims, which would seem
to be false.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: yeah, you
tell him
that
there's no way in hell and
that he's wasting his
time, and he
tries
to argue
that it's worth his
time and it's
totally a possibility
mircea_popescu: more importantly,
the purported auditor does not substantially exist. it consists of a recently registered, domain-by-proxy website, upon which some random copy has been plastered.
mircea_popescu: so,
this purported audit is in very poor form, for a myriad of reasons, such as for instance it being published by
the audited entity rather
than by
the auditor.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Is
that ninjashogun restaurant guy still asking for money because some mystery man in #dogecoin left him hanging on hit 1337 hardware project
dexX7: well
then, why not :)
dexX7: i agree and i expected something such a reaction. you don't need
to convince me or something
nubbins`: people are all hung up on 2011 "error coins" (series-1), oblivious
to
the fact
that
the series-2 2011s are so much more rare
mircea_popescu: so, bitstamp is
this bitcoin exchange. people have been havng
their doubts about it for a while. bitstamp came up with
this
theory whereby it's been audited.
moiety: ok. i woke up. i have no idea wtf ive been
thinking for
the past ....months. *new leaf*
nubbins`: i'm
trying
to
track down a brass 2011 series-2
mircea_popescu: someone should
tell cary it's a bad idea
to CONTINUE signing in
the company of such doofusry.
mircea_popescu: seeing how kraken managed
to fuck up deposit addresses creating a mess worth 100s of btc,
that
they lied about.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
that aside, i appreciate
the humour of jess powell signing statements,
mircea_popescu: i am saying
that either
the firestartr
thing is an outright fraud,
dexX7: so what are you saying? do you doubt
that
the result of
the "audit" is legit and bitstamp is running a fractional reserve?
mircea_popescu: i would like
to know why other stuff like spylog or begun aren't listed
there
mircea_popescu: and if
they list badoo, which is owned and operated by
the russian... shall we not call it online fraud division, but merely refer
to it as "Андрей Оганджанянц".
mircea_popescu: Badoo is a dating-focused social networking service, founded in 2006, which uses deceptive
tactics
to attract new users
mircea_popescu: "team". whio ?
they have a website which consists of... "we"
dexX7: Firestartr's
team has been behind €6.7Bn in
transactions over
the last 20 years; a dozen
trade sales and IPOs and started eight companies from scratch covering brands like Skype, Orchestream and Geneva. Our current community of ventures includes names like Rightster,
Teleportd, Badoo, Pusher, Fanatix and UC4 Software.
kakobrekla: you just need
to have a large enough wallet and spammer idiots will sends satoshis
to your balance along with a blockchain info note
mircea_popescu: random website with a domains by proxy registration and a prepackaged css suite slapped in fails
to impress.
kakobrekla: fuck i just found out
that bitcoin does indeed pay interests
mircea_popescu: but some actual auditor with an actual
track record of auditing.