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ThickAsThieves: anyone have insight as to what will happen if abnormal amounts of ginger are consumed regularly?
Diablo-D3: pLambert: but we're supposed to be burning fats and protein, not carbs
pLambert: say whatever you want, but if you are burning protein the nitrogen is going out of your body via urine.
mircea_popescu: alcohol that'll kill a pacific islander = 0.1% of the dose well tolerated by a caucasian
Diablo-D3: dub: I agree, the FDA is full of shit
pLambert: when I did paleo, it was just a moderate amount of meat, and tons of fruit and veggies
Diablo-D3: its only an issue if you're eating the typical american diet and you have, say, diabetes
mircea_popescu: in general people vary metabolically two even three degrees of magnitude.
ThickAsThieves: losing weight isnt purely a good thing
dub: if your basis for anything is the FDA you're already fucked btw
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 it widely depends on the genetics of the individual in question
Diablo-D3: ketosis is a good thing if you're losing weight
Diablo-D3: yeah, I wish people would quit trying to demonize ketosis
Diablo-D3: but its a lot higher than the FDA would like you to believe
Diablo-D3: pLambert: there is a level where too much protein is bad
pLambert: if your body is burning protein for energy, you will have to get rid of all the nitrogen somehow, which wears out your kidneys
asciilifeform: coffee shop in this town is, afaik, 100% uni grads.
asciilifeform: but work they do.
Diablo-D3: dub: ahh, so THATS what that test is for
mircea_popescu: <benkay> american college students are so self-important they can barely work service industry gigs. << this.
dub: the answer is the answer
dub: benkay: according to who?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> benkay: probably not the cattle. but the folks who actually know some useful trade. << most of those have already left.
benkay: i have no idea what exactly the dropoff is, but 75% protein for an extended period of time is fukken dangerous.
benkay: heard of a thing called an "operating envelope", dub?
dub: benkay: people are different, the only way to apply any science is test your blood regularly
dub: benkay: there are few real rules
mircea_popescu: help bring down the us banking system.
mircea_popescu: judge can order whatever he wants, the bitcoin he can't touch
mircea_popescu: <benkay> pray they're not due before we emerge from the Trough. << no actually : take loan, buy bitcoin, give bank the finger.
benkay: what's the cal/g fat?
benkay: ah i'm fucking that up
Diablo-D3: benkay: dude, thats like, way above what the FDA brainwashed people to believe is the maximum
Diablo-D3: dub: nothing, it just spoils too quickly and its hard to get stuff grown in america most of the year
Diablo-D3: its hard to find frozen that isnt shit
Diablo-D3: so for total today I ate...
Diablo-D3: now for the vegs...
ThickAsThieves: so when people talk about losing weight
ThickAsThieves: but it's my thing
ThickAsThieves: i have this 3-year or so cycle where i get 40lbs overweight and pick up jogging again
ThickAsThieves: i have been the same way with jogging at times
Diablo-D3: so thats 751 calories....
dub: ThickAsThieves: its the first thing he's ever stuck to for more than a minute
benkay: ThickAsThieves: that's kinda what i'm driving at
ThickAsThieves: really i think D3 simply cherishes what got him healthy to the point of fanaticism
Diablo-D3: 113g of this steak is 140 calories, 3.5g of fat, 0 carbs, 26g of protein....
benkay: so Diablo-D3 once you drop all the weight via completely cutting out carbs, one can lead a pretty healthy life eating the occasional sugar thing (or beer, or wine), provided you supplement with exercise.
dub: is unnatural fruit a thing?
Diablo-D3: so lets find out how many grams of various things I ate today
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: eating natural fruit is about the only source of sugars pretty much
ThickAsThieves: i think maybe a common ground here might be, we can all agree that the processed a food is, and the more unnatural chemicals make it up or are used to create it, the worse the food is
benkay: i'd assume - do you have other input sources to consider?
Diablo-D3: benkay: No I mean, is that the only part of the calculation?
benkay: of course the stuff that goes in your face
ThickAsThieves: he's arguing types of protein, etc
ThickAsThieves: he's not even arguing about ratios though
benkay: you should be able to estimate.
Diablo-D3: benkay: is there a web calculator for that somewhere?
Diablo-D3: I attribute it to government interference in the natural diet of humans.
ThickAsThieves: i attribute any overweight lbs to sitting in this chair too much
ThickAsThieves: certainly not in the sense you imagine
Diablo-D3: Their reign of terror is over.
ThickAsThieves: people have been curing obesity 100 times over
benkay: Diablo-D3's clearly all the way in column a.
Diablo-D3: all you do is bitch when I bring up the fact obesity has been cured.
ThickAsThieves: just cuz you found an angle doesnt make it the divine answer to all things
dub: whats to like?
Diablo-D3: my body finally regulating itself? thats a GREAT thing
ThickAsThieves: and that's a good thing?
Diablo-D3: so that blows your theory out of the water
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: the thing is, I lost this weight without increased exercise.
Diablo-D3: thats a good way to getting a heart attack
ThickAsThieves: go for a run 3 times a week for same result
Diablo-D3: I have all the proof I need to know I'm right. I'm living proof.
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: I went from 340 to 210
Diablo-D3: you can run ten thousand miles and never get skinny, you can eat the FDA recommended diet and never get skinny
Diablo-D3: it tells fat people "dont eat meat, dont eat fat, dont eat cholesterol, eat wheat and corn and other "vegetables" like them" and people keep getting fatter on that insane advice
asciilifeform: 'a hunchback is cured by the grave.' (rus. proverb)
Diablo-D3: it tells kids in high school "get a degree at any cost no matter what, otherwise you'll never get a job"
Diablo-D3: the government loves to brainwash people
Diablo-D3: hey, if we're going to talk about fat people, bringing up the cure is fair game
ThickAsThieves: diablo-d3 always bringing it back to paleo
Diablo-D3: treat those fucks like the terrorists they are
Diablo-D3: wheat, corn, sugar cain, all highly toxic drugs that should be on the schedule I list
blackwhite: ahh I see we got a ancapper in the house :)
Diablo-D3: blackwhite: yes, and the sooner we burn the wheat and corn crops the better
Diablo-D3: they were brainwashed into thinking untruths by the governemt
blackwhite: Diablo-D3 they are too fat because they eat shit food. They might as well die of starvation because they sure will die from obesity
benkay: "but my feminism is insulted every day in this gig!"
Diablo-D3: I feel sorry for them
asciilifeform: incidentally, even a 100% proper science/maths/etc degree can be a liability, as you'll only be considered for the higher paygrades (naturally tighter musical chairs)
Diablo-D3: benkay: yeah, they're fucked
benkay: american college students are so self-important they can barely work service industry gigs.
Diablo-D3: one third of america is too fat
Diablo-D3: dub: and that doesnt even make sense
ThickAsThieves: they don't need a good reason in the losing party's estimation
dub: thats cause telling them they are too fat is discrimination
ThickAsThieves: wtf is this with "good reason"
Diablo-D3: "oh, you're too old" (30s is too old? wow)
benkay: no, that's a good reason.