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Duffer1: so.. i'm on the phone with Lilliput now should i cancel the gang or not?
mircea_popescu: didja read the feb report ?
mdwu: did you turn it off because it was too much hassle to hedge the big short order last money?
mircea_popescu: mdwu once there's a usable, meaningful spot yeah
mdwu: MP: will you turn mpex options back on at some point? or is it gone for good?
mircea_popescu: going back to the forum link in question... it's reasonably published
ThickAsThieves: dont make it like you are and arent at the same time
asciilifeform goes back to tweaking PLL clock on cardano
ThickAsThieves: but just say that
ThickAsThieves: like i said before, youve got a reason for not publishing your personal wealth, if you dont want to say the reason, that's fine
mircea_popescu: somehow the entire show me your cock thing got shoehorn into a slightly different discusison
mircea_popescu: we weren't actually discussing that, i dun think.
asciilifeform: you might do it to demonstrate an indestructible robotic prosthesis, but otherwise it's pointless
ThickAsThieves: the answer i got was essentially to put idiots in their place
asciilifeform: seems like a proposition that's purely lose-lose, like sticking hand in a bear trap.
mircea_popescu: fucking something or the other
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the usual purpose one obtains doing that lol.
asciilifeform: what useful thing could one hope to achieve by dropping pants and publicly displaying bitcock?
ThickAsThieves: i dont believe there is a known addy that is definitively your coins
mircea_popescu: its in the faq innit ?
ThickAsThieves: ive dug up some in the past
mircea_popescu: i just made a comment re the bitbet addies, you can tally those up, they're published
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know the mpex addy, neh ?
pizzaman1337: this is just a striptease to see MP's bitcoin dick. We can't be impressed without a little build-up.
mircea_popescu: but to some degree i do.
mircea_popescu: mdwu that the poor person likely sucks.
ThickAsThieves: the reason the conversation continued,
ThickAsThieves: even if that's what it boiled down to
mdwu: what is the difference between a poor and rich person besides their net worth?
mircea_popescu: tbh what i perceive is the matter here is that you live in an environment where poor black dudes stare you down as a daily routine, and i just said "da fuck is this, you stare THEM down mothefucker! they're poor, not you" which created a little disonance
ThickAsThieves: i guess it does usually take a lot of kicking and screaming on the occassions you do give in though... so maybe i'm wring
ThickAsThieves: whether i am perfectly articulating my case, or presenting it in the exact way to get a straight answer, you do know what I am saying
ThickAsThieves: we're just dancing anyway, i don't see any other way to interpret this
ThickAsThieves: to not share the info
ThickAsThieves: no they are motivations
ThickAsThieves: i'm only asking because i suspect your reasons arent much different than mine
mircea_popescu: why am i not fucking them in particular X manner you'd prefer ? because i'm me.
ThickAsThieves: but why arent you fucking them
ThickAsThieves: with not wanting to be a target
mircea_popescu: it's not some sort of technical explanation of address showing.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> while i'm unlikely in the top 500, i wouldnt want to be known as such << this is the line that sparked the discussion
mircea_popescu: the exact implementation is left as an exercise to the reader
ThickAsThieves: but that doesnt exactly explain why me not showing addresses is questionable
ThickAsThieves: i mean i know you do your part to spank the idiots and seize your day
mircea_popescu: well it's good enough, i'll use this as a convenient reference to show that at least one person in zee werld thinks im shy.
ThickAsThieves: not sure what that means
mircea_popescu: because im too over the top as is.
mircea_popescu: seems kinda nutty to ask me why i'm shy dunnit ?
ThickAsThieves: you asked why be shy, i said why, you said yeah but, then i asked well why are you shy?
ThickAsThieves: i think i came off more defensive than i actually am
mircea_popescu: Neil yeah bitbet got seeded originally, so as to build this situation it enjoys today where it has a large pool.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, it wasn't some sort of "omg you're a bad person", it was more of a "why the fuck would you be shy of the world. fuck em."
Neil: One of the inputs to that address used for the payout was 4368 BTC; which is like 40% of bitbet volume at that time...
Neil: Doesn't seem to me that came from people betting on bitbet; that's my only point.
mircea_popescu: this was the diff bet no ?
mircea_popescu: Neil that's just a function of how the payouts on large bets work.
ThickAsThieves: knowing doesnt really matter, to me at least
ThickAsThieves: it's more fun to me to not know anyway
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ThickAsThieves: if that;s how you wanna play it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think you prolly took an angle of what i said and run off with it.
mircea_popescu: Neil bitbet had 500+ bets iirc. how much was this ?
ThickAsThieves: that i dont want anyone to know what i have in that context
Neil: mircea_popescu: Coz you spent a huge output for the big payout on bitbet; it wasn't an input to anything plausible on bitbet in its history. So bitbet's wallet it definitely being mixed with something else - yours or mpoe's or ...
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: yeah, because in practice it can't all be turned into real btc at market rates
mircea_popescu: there, how bad is that.
ozbot: Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest
ThickAsThieves: which was exactly the topic
ThickAsThieves: no one really knows how many btc mp has or claims to have
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 so that substantially changes anything ?
ThickAsThieves: an mpex addy could be for the members
ThickAsThieves: he makes no concrete statement as to what belongs to what
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 1.66964413 BTC to 21`469 shares, 7777 satoshi per share
ThickAsThieves: you say why not be on a list of top holders, show the shitheads the world is yours
ThickAsThieves: i think i already pointed out what
ThickAsThieves: no just surprised i didnt note the hypocrisy til now
mircea_popescu: "Odi Kosmatos 2m @bitcoinpete @Mircea_Popescu (previous knee-jerk tweet deleted) Hi Mircea, are you the guy who thinks everyone else is stupid? Appropriate!"
mircea_popescu: what, srsly, does it look to you like i ain't ?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: You've got to make some openly know, others less openly known. Just in case someone with the means for abduction possesses a soldering iron.
Duffer1: i thought that's what trilema was for
ThickAsThieves: all i know is that anyone that might care how much coin I have, i cared too, i'd show em
mircea_popescu: whose world is it, yours or theirs ?
mircea_popescu: prepare the batons, beat them bloody.
mircea_popescu: so then let them try.
ThickAsThieves: it seems the shitheads would rather tear down and be in denial about those above them while observing
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves just discussing the more general point. why should you be in their heads ? because you're cool, and they aren't./
ThickAsThieves: and seeing me on a list would affect that?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the reason they're a problem is that their heads are full of shit.
ThickAsThieves: wtf use do i have to be in these people's heads
Neil: mircea_popescu: Does the Romanian govt not bother you? Are they not interested tax-wise in your activities?
mircea_popescu: a target of what ? public worship ?
mircea_popescu: well whats this "be a target" bs.
mircea_popescu: dude, you gotta asume your status in the world.
ThickAsThieves: why be a target
ThickAsThieves: while i'm unlikely in the top 500, i wouldnt want to be known as such
Neil: ThickAsThieves: regarding # addresses with large coin - it's very stable; I've been tracking it. There is a small downtrend except for the top 500 which has been in uptrend
ThickAsThieves: i used to have all this music in me, but then i stopped binge drinking and dating and working for the man
ThickAsThieves: other stressful emotions too
nubbins`: we just don't remember them ;D
ThickAsThieves: more depression and emotion went into them as well