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asciilifeform: putin's position with respect to the u.s. is roughly similar to mpex vs. the btc wankiverse
mircea_popescu: if he did more craigkate type of stuff it'd be riotous.
Shakespeare: basically seens as the cuddly mobster with a beach bod
mircea_popescu: putin should come out of the closet as a furry or something, just to troll reddit.
mircea_popescu: "No Mircia, US isn't confused, just disgusted with thugs like #Putin"
Shakespeare: I do repent the tedious minutes I with her have spent
mircea_popescu: Neil wanna bet on that ?
asciilifeform: 'into the valley of reddit rode the six hundred'
asciilifeform: 'ours is not to question why, ours is but to [wank] and die.'
Shakespeare: i dont seek to underdstand why
asciilifeform: and then it comes out that the grl cheated with electrodes. (suppose.)
Shakespeare: not to that
mircea_popescu: that's like the third most overused gif on the internet.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: fuck this life, for one night you dont suck a dick and suddenly you are not a ho anymo' ? <<< bwahaha
Shakespeare: did you see that ad i linked to with the girl jiggling her butt?
mircea_popescu: this needs a repost. those perfect butts omg.
Shakespeare: He's rounding up the watch of his wit, by and by it will strike.
mircea_popescu: why do you think he was called "shake spear"
asciilifeform: i personally have attempted, on occasion, to make it go.
mircea_popescu: it just needs to be beaten black and blue and then fucked raw.
mircea_popescu: it can be made to work
asciilifeform: as always, when using a technical pidgin like english, everybody loses something.
mircea_popescu: see, if he had called them maidowniks i'd have been in awe of his fucking expressivity
asciilifeform: yeah something like that
asciilifeform: mr. o's problem, as it often is, is that he blogs in english.
ThickAsThieves: I'll be there for your crucifixion, and there when no apostles are left
asciilifeform: from 'майдан' (the ua square where the 'demonstration' was) and 'даун' (down's syndrome)
asciilifeform: actually there is a beautiful russian name widely in use now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, in sum, you're saying he's just whatever, too tired to even invent a name for the idiots so he's going with neo nazi ?
Duffer1: lol no mention of the size of the yes bets...
ThickAsThieves: I'm the first
mircea_popescu: hey. i guess that finally makes me baby jesus on a stick ?
ThickAsThieves: I'm one of the 12 apostles!
mircea_popescu: ahaha this is so awful.
mircea_popescu: dude this totally matters :D
mircea_popescu: "Not too many takers so far: of the 100 confirmed bets, 88 are betting on Uncle Warren. Only 12 have taken the bitcoin side of the bet. (Paul Vigna)"
ThickAsThieves: like idiots they link to BRK-B of course
mircea_popescu: well, nationalist movements in the 21st century. it's gonna be pretty comedic.
asciilifeform: omitting the 'nazi' would be quite like, were they to wear clown suits while doing their thing, to omit mention of said suits.
asciilifeform: it isn't orlov's (or putin's) fault that the west ua folks insist on becoming something out of a comic book
asciilifeform: i, for one, would like to read the result.
asciilifeform: it is not easy to describe, accurately and completely, the nato block's policy of nation-wrecking using something other than 'russian' terms. but you're welcome to try.
mircea_popescu: that's always been the question of the independent thinker,
mircea_popescu: but in what terms ?
asciilifeform: and that anyone who interferes with it's doings, for whatever purpose, is to be applauded
asciilifeform: orlov's position, as far as i can tell, is that u.s. inherited the crown of idiocy worn by the old ussr
mircea_popescu: well that's it, by then syria's done.
bloctoc: for the logs, I will be changing my handle to tacostorm soon
mircea_popescu: there's approximately 0% chances of sevastopol falling this year.
mircea_popescu: but listen, had orlov called them "privileged male chauvinist pigs" i'd have went "whoa, when did this guy join the blue side"
asciilifeform: likewise, americans ought to - and will - dance in the streets if the port at sevastopol is conquered and the russian fleet can no longer interfere with the u.s. syrian demolition derby
asciilifeform: from the standpoint of russia, not so beautiful
asciilifeform: from the standpoint of americans, it is a beautiful thing if poland, ua, baltics, etc. are stuffed with as many missile bases as physically fit, aimed at moscow
asciilifeform: people who apply 'human morality' to the logic of empire are weird.
mircea_popescu: o yes, because beyond the pale huh
mircea_popescu: so then what, were the jews in ukraine mostly settled farmers ?
mircea_popescu: hm this is a point.
asciilifeform: who did the jerries plug at babi yar? martians?
mircea_popescu: shithole didn't even have jews in the first place.
mircea_popescu: "Unlike competing Polish, Russian, Hungarian or Romanian nationalisms in late imperial Austria, imperial Russia, interwar Poland and Romania, Ukrainian nationalism did not include antisemitism as a core aspect of its program and saw Russians as well as Poles as the chief enemy with Jews playing a secondary role." lmao.
mircea_popescu: ah, cause the "great patriotic war" stuff ?
mircea_popescu: and inasmuch as this is the case, which exact label one picks serves as a group identification. if you use the russian propaganda terminology you basically are throwing up a flag and little more.
asciilifeform: nah, marching around in ss garb makes them. you gotta appreciate how this makes them an almost physiological allergen to anyone who grew up even vaguely russian.
mircea_popescu: im merely saying that the neonazi label is about as approximative as calling them "knights of the cuisinart", or freemasons.
mircea_popescu: i mean understand me, i am not proposing that either side or party or w/e active entity there is either respectable or in the right.
asciilifeform: mostly to saw into scrap and sell to the nato block
mircea_popescu: so that makes them neo nazis ?!
asciilifeform: they'd like to dominate the historically rus. west, and own the soviet-built factories which they had no part in creating
asciilifeform: what they want isn't to be merely left alone to run their historical (province of poland, really) agrarian pesthole
mircea_popescu: "death to the jews" is, at least in europe, about as common as "open your legs, i'm not gonna do anything"
asciilifeform: this isn't even the interesting part about the west ua folks
mircea_popescu: why aren't these qualifications for "loyal subjects of the king of aragon" ?
mircea_popescu: and anyway! death to the jews ?
asciilifeform: what's left is... well, this.
asciilifeform: you're quite right that the actual, historic nazis are gone.
mircea_popescu: but that's still not nazi.
mircea_popescu: right. the equivalent of romania's iron guard's codreanu idjit.
asciilifeform: (not a russian fiction, but straight from the horse's mouth)
mircea_popescu: listen, srsly, galicia doesn't count in this discussion.
asciilifeform: this fellow is their ultimate hero.
mircea_popescu: o wait, this is the glatz.
gribble: Stepan Bandera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera>; Ukraine's Neo-Nazis. Stepan Bandera and the Legacy of World War ...: <http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraines-neo-nazis-stepan-bandera-and-the-legacy-of-world-war-ii/5373773?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ukraines-neo-nazis-stepan-bandera-and-the-legacy-of-world-war-ii>; (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: wasn't that mostly from like slovakia/bohjemia etc ?
gribble: 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Ukrainian) - Wikipedia ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Ukrainian)>; 'Galicia' Division - Justice for Germans: <http://justice4germans.com/2013/08/23/ukrainians-honour-the-service-and-sacrifices-of-the-waffen-ss-galicia-division/>; What's On Kiev | News | The Infamous Ukrainian Waffen SS (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: no, you fucking can't, the french would have never taken any brits, ever, no matter what.
mircea_popescu: it's like telling me you could have a grandee armee in coventry.
asciilifeform: but, what would be needed for it to qualify as a proper nazi party? merely the brand and logo?
mircea_popescu: an actual nazi party in the ukraine would be quite the schopenhauerian feat.
mircea_popescu: which... you know, has to to with nazism about as much as mice and men with martin short and steven segall has to do with french impresionism
asciilifeform: read their own turds, where the wankers proclaim 'i wanna finish what grandpa started'
asciilifeform: correct. except, with some non-negligible historical continuity with the actual nazis, which the american version lacks
mircea_popescu: heck, they're probably inspired by the aryan union.
mircea_popescu: they're more akin to the aryan union, actually.
mircea_popescu: but those dudes aren't "nazis" in that sense.
asciilifeform: if a zoologist were to speak of a lion, he wouldn't merely say 'panthera'
mircea_popescu: as far as i recall the nazis raped ukraine pretty good, the notion someone there actually is much of a nazi is ridicxulous on its face to begin with.
asciilifeform: idiots of a particular rare variety, which survived in a curious 'nature preserve' for quite some time
mircea_popescu: it's purely a problem of terminology, see ?
asciilifeform: i mean, what is one supposed to call folks chanting 'смерть жидам' and marching with Galician SS banners?
bloctoc: actually, I had already clicked, but I don't understand the contract. I was trying to blame my inadequacy completely fabricated internet security problems.