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mircea_popescu: what if i knew what the words you use mean.
Shakespeare: what if the women become self-aware in this way
asciilifeform: people told 'female police force' picture 'ilsa, she-wolf of auschwitz' rather than the more likely office plankton girl next door stuffed into a uniform.
mircea_popescu: a society where women have a say in their reproductive history will produce a finite number of generations.
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare yes. a democracy can never produce art. give the plebs the vote, you've ended painting, and music.
mircea_popescu: actuially mostly female police seems to work wel lin columbia
Shakespeare: is your text also implying that a society which gives women fair play in the economy, ie females CEOs, equal pay, etc, is doomed the same?
mircea_popescu: the answer my friend (as you well know) is that feminism is not a theory, nor science, but a marketing ploy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the decorated mothers of ten.
chetty: no its not, the roles are part of biology
asciilifeform: with the burly steamroller driving girls
asciilifeform: i often wonder why u.s. 'feminists' don't parade the most remarkable 'equality' freak show - post-war ussr
Shakespeare: merely if it's a role issue more than a gender one
mircea_popescu: well sure, that's the end of it. "could a planet exist with aqueous atmosphere and oceans of air ?"
Shakespeare: but i didnt ask whether they were
Shakespeare: well men doing the rearing
Shakespeare: women doing the work
Shakespeare: men being the "women"
Shakespeare: could a population thrive where the role is reversed?
asciilifeform: exactly this.
mircea_popescu: precisely what the most serene republic amply posessed and widely employed.
mircea_popescu: usually known as the power of fuck you.
asciilifeform: proper extraterritoriality needs a genuine power, that can make it stick
asciilifeform: chetty: u.s. 'reservations' as they presently exist aren't the least bit 'extraterritorial' - they've been busted open for something as mundane as 'war on drugs' in the past.
mircea_popescu: "you may continue to pretend you're a country just as soon as you come to terms with us being immune"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform precisely what the recent thing with the sec was all aobut.
chetty: asciilifeform: you mean the 'reservations'?
mircea_popescu: and generally the degree to which the society is steeped in it is clearly apparent
mircea_popescu: in it, the father teaches his pubescent daughter the difference between "us" and "those people" as a matter of course,
ozbot: Jodaeiye Nader az Simin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/jodaeiye-nader-az-simin/ << this is the film in quesiton.
asciilifeform: i'm waiting for the extraterritoriality zones in the u.s., where folks are permitted to behave like human beings
asciilifeform: the turks, if i recall, took this to a high art
mircea_popescu: they can even drink, there.
mircea_popescu: they have this special immunity thing, they don't have to as long as they stay in the "foreigner" zone
mircea_popescu: yeah, plenty of romanians too.
asciilifeform: and the girls are supposed to wear the bags, but piss on the demand
asciilifeform: recent word is that russian engineers (including girls) are happily collecting 'hazard pay' building infrastructure (incl. fission) for iran
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you definitely can, iran is more deeply split than the ukraine.
mircea_popescu: then we'll get perhaps to hear all about the arab nazis on orlov's blog
asciilifeform: it'd be like liberating constantinople from the turks
mircea_popescu: and if this is the next target for the suddenly found int'l cock of putin,
asciilifeform: not sure if you could, at this point, 'separate the flies from the cutlets' (to use the rus. expression)
ozbot: Sharia saw: Iran releases pictures of brutal amputation machine chopping off man's fingers in bid to
asciilifeform: which achievements? classics? or this:
mircea_popescu: (which does not map on iran at all, and which actually in the future may be the engine that liberates the poor persians from the smelly arab invaders)
mircea_popescu: afaik the russian inteligentsia of today is developing quite a crush on persian cultural achievements.
asciilifeform: english gentleman, afaik, wasn't expected to bother with translations, but to go out and learn languages
asciilifeform: 'rubaiat' and that's it, afaik.
mircea_popescu: all things considered.
mircea_popescu: incidentally it is naught but shoicking how little persian exists in english translations,
asciilifeform: 'i gave the fool an ax, to fetch some kindling sticks; and to the mosque he went, and smashed the door to bits.' (persian, bad double-translation from rus. mine)
mircea_popescu: a leader that imposes laws is doing something wrong.
mircea_popescu: for that matter : leadership and lawmaking are quite distinct endeavours.
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mircea_popescu: somehow stacey asks the same.
Shakespeare: i guess that's a loaded q
Shakespeare: as an aside while i read, do you consider a state leader imposing law that results in more children to be smart or dumb?
mircea_popescu: that's the genius of it :D
asciilifeform: i picture this hypothetical device as being a kind of topologically reverse version of the 'milking machine' japan recently became famous for.
asciilifeform: turns out that was elsewhere.
asciilifeform: damn, thought that was the post where you described automatic 'public impregnators' for japan
Shakespeare: dammit my trilema cookie reset
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform plenty of indirect taxes tho. everyone pays.
nubbins`: $75 to get a thermometer stuck up Pinki's ass last week
Shakespeare: so they all eat duck
asciilifeform: in the town there i live, there is, theoretically, a tax on cats
mircea_popescu: not to mention the shit trays and medical inspections.
mircea_popescu: cats pay more taxes than most us dwellers.
nubbins`: if cats paid taxes, catnip would be illegal
mircea_popescu: people ABUSE their pets...
nubbins`: it makes the food healthier? ;(
Shakespeare: raw tomatoes make me gag
asciilifeform: if catnip worked on man like it does on cat, i doubt it would be permitted even in the u.s. botanical garden.
mircea_popescu: guess what happens to lead that's washed in aciding tomato juice.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no. this was chiefly a us phenomenon. the us at the time was poor and lazy, so most of their flatware was made of lead.
nubbins`: either way, imagine being the guy who discovered tomatoes are awesome
mircea_popescu: very few got the high quality trolling they were blessed with.
nubbins`: i figured it was because it's from the nightshade family
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i kept proposing people to make catnip illegal in the us
asciilifeform: a plant toxin the eater can't 'deal with' is poison, or drug, depending on dose and aesthetics
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that was due to the lead.
nubbins`: altho TBH people thought tomatoes were bad for people until what, the 1800s?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. but also a lot of variation there.
Shakespeare: same cat will play fetch too
nubbins`: there's mixed opinions on whether tomatoes are bad for cats
Shakespeare: tears through the bag if left unattended
asciilifeform: the beast isn't really built to deal with plant toxins
Shakespeare: which i know is toxic for cats
Shakespeare: i have a cat that loves beer
asciilifeform: obligate carnivores tend to have 'underpowered' liver
mircea_popescu: cats are fine, but i've never heard of a cat like th estuff
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a lot of metabolic diversity under this "all humans are humans" misguided perception. and it isn't limited to this species, either.
asciilifeform: 'normal' phenotype doesn't really get to smell the gasoline, he goes 'aargh' from his nose dissolving a little
Shakespeare: but there's some interest when i do
mircea_popescu: their liver is just not too happy with the prospect of having to cope with that load.
mircea_popescu: like some people think peanut butter smells awful
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i read suggested it's the presence of particular enzimatic pathways
asciilifeform: might just be an 'irritation threshhold' phenomenon.
Shakespeare: aurolac i think, was the stuff they huffed