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asciilifeform: if anything, they are hungry for easy meat
asciilifeform: so u.s. bureaucrats are not harmless merely because of their everyday impotence.
mircea_popescu: because they got offered the cushy sec job and passed on it to be on the street ?
mircea_popescu: why do you think it's mostly the lowlifes that scam ?
asciilifeform: well, their standard diet, for whatever biological reason
benderp: or as I say to my staunchly little-d democratic friends "everything is born, matures, ossifies and dies. governments are no different."
mircea_popescu: those marginals have to still make ends meet
Ghaleon: yes, much as among humans, it is the cowards we must watch for.. not the brave ones
asciilifeform: because they are unable to catch the meat that they actually like
Ghaleon: tiger only go man eater when they lose their teeth , get wounded and cannot hunt normal prey, most animals avoid humans
mircea_popescu: this is true, yeah
asciilifeform: rather than the strongest
asciilifeform: essence being, it is the weak/old/injured beasts that are the most dangerous to man
Ghaleon: we need to propel bit coin to mass respectability,.. one inch at a time
asciilifeform: a study of tigers and when/how/why they eat human
mircea_popescu: or, "every ass looks good on a bike. that's why we buy bikes"
mircea_popescu: at the time bitcoin didn't look as big as it does today. iirc it was ~2-5 bux per or somesuch
mircea_popescu: afaik he got some job in the uk and forgot all about this
joecool: bitvps 2.0 was supposed to happen for him too but he started selling the equipment he lined up for that last week
joecool: mircea_popescu: i'm guessing he got embarrassed about his habit and stopped reporting P&L statements when the L was coming from heroin acquisitions
joecool: mircea_popescu: heroin was the likely answer regarding that case
asciilifeform: (see the 'new york death ray' case recently)
joecool: heh i never read the bitvps story on trilema
asciilifeform: no need to go far for other examples. fbi, for instance, mainly relies on entrapment to manufacture 'terrorists'
mircea_popescu: you have no idea what depression is until you've seen the depths through the eyes of a high ranking bureaucrat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that it fails at. miserably.
asciilifeform: just the same way as nsa is built for a certain purpose
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : anyone remember tom green's performance in road trip ?
mircea_popescu: it's true that reptiles are great hunters. it's false that they're uber hunting machines as the kid imagines them
asciilifeform: sec can be manned by devils, or by mild-mannered bureaucrats just plodding along, paying their credit card bills. but in point of fact, it is a machine built for preventing americans from doing certain voluntary things with their money
mircea_popescu: you ever seen a kid try to feed a lizzard ?
asciilifeform: all of these tentacles limp along, until they encounter... a meal.
moiety: he included therapy costs for the stress
Ademan: mircea_popescu: I got a good chuckle out of your correspondence with the SEC, bravo.
ninjashogun: benderp - I would go to monthly billing, it's probably psychologically easier to justify :)
mircea_popescu: i mean, normal people have normal kids, from down syndrome to superclever.
ninjashogun: benderp 5 btc for an hour seems a bit steep :) that's $3000 per hour or a daily rate of... $24,000 - or a monthly rate of... $600,000.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of space between "exists for the good of the people" and "was spawned by the devil and is making him proud"
Ademan: asciilifeform: some people believe that
asciilifeform: you might as well imagine that 'fda' exists For The Good of The People
mircea_popescu: just because her name is lilith does not know she knows how to suck cock, you know ?
mircea_popescu: this view requires it be too perfect a fruit.
asciilifeform: because it is a fruit of the poisoned tree (fdr/'newdeal')
benderp: ninjashogun: you also owe me 5btc for my time this afternoon ;)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you know this ?
asciilifeform: it's an arm of the beast
mircea_popescu: maybe they're honestly just trying to understand wtf is going on. i could sorta see if i was in that position i'd go fishing like this. why not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to the extent sec exists for some actual purpose, that purpose includes infesting the btc world with whatever plagues can be conjured up, not extinguishing them
mircea_popescu: dexX7 maybe the sale was fictitious. maybe erik had the wrong kind of friends, a la shrem. maybe shrem was his wrong kind of friends. who the hell knows at this point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the incentive it does have. it's more effective, more effectual and cheaper. that's really the eos.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 well on what basis would i think about it. i have no idea.
ninjashogun: I'll pay your backtax on unseemly behavior (along with my apologies). I have a better grasp of the channel dynamics here.
mircea_popescu: this obviously will have to chance, and this obviously will change. it's just that a number of otherwise well meaning people didn't even know they had this problem until last month
asciilifeform: or the incentive.
mircea_popescu: well... it doesn't have the people, the brains, the training or the intellectual culture.
mircea_popescu: i somehow can pursue bitcoin fraud quite in the open. the sec can not. why not ?
mircea_popescu: the clash of cultures is between the ankylosis of old bureaucratic paperwork and contemporary digital openness
dexX7: they may not want to say it, sure. but what do you think about it? any guess?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might as well ask the buggers to skip straight to kissing the ring (tm)
mircea_popescu: but the real clash isn't "you wanna phone me ? get on irc"
mircea_popescu: people have been pointing to "clash of cultures" discussing this, and its true
mircea_popescu: dexX7 they don't want to say, apparently.
dexX7: what does the sec want with the user data etc.? i'm wondering, if this is about the sale of sd, btc stocks in general or an investigation about some fraud going on etc..
mircea_popescu: i'd be curious in what happens if they fuck a rabbit
moiety: http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/216/d/d/Japanese_Chin_puppy_by_Lena_Lou.jpg i would like one of these, but unsure if actual dog or just cat that can bark
Ghaleon: what is the best route for a startup to go public btc style?
benderp: can we buy them already in a butt?
mircea_popescu: Neil are they on a string ?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 611.98, Best ask: 611.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 611.99, 24 hour volume: 6981.71545735, 24 hour low: 605.11, 24 hour high: 623.95, 24 hour vwap: 613.150833954
benderp: blow stamps to be had for cheap
moiety: thanks, the photo tours gave me the idea
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you got me reading the adventures of the 14th waffen grenadiers, which resulted in much amusement at the freitag guy
mircea_popescu: the blood argument is incredibly weak. there's a shitton of blood on "romanian", doth not make it particularly unusable.
TomServo: or the beginning I should say
TomServo: around 2:00 is the more relevant piece
gribble: Charlemagne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne>; Charlemagne - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com: <http://www.history.com/topics/charlemagne>; Charlemagne (Holy Roman emperor) -- Encyclopedia Britannica: <http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/106546/Charlemagne>
mircea_popescu: TomServo i thought he was dead ?
TomServo: mircea_popescu: you might appreciate that, he may even be a reader
mircea_popescu: he'd have to have btc first.
ThickAsThieves: we can back tax ninjashogun
jurov: was that 17 lines? guess i'm sending 0.17btc as donation then
mircea_popescu: to be voluntarily sent to teh donations address
mircea_popescu: i think we should institute a 1 bitcent fine for unseemly behaviour
jurov: administrators are more conscious about the importance of strong passwords than the average
jurov: . This most likely reflects the fact that system
jurov: found in the LulzSec leak, which was
ThickAsThieves: cant wait for scammers to game that
jurov: characters, a lot longer than the
ThickAsThieves: hmm so the new Bitcoin "Core" allows payment requests
jurov: than we expected. The average length is
jurov: The first thing that stands out when looking at the data is the average length, which is much longer
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : things happen in ways things happen, it's very important to either this or the other and make sure you brush your tits in the morning.
dexX7: haha yea, that's the tltr
ThickAsThieves: Paypal was and is a target for scammers and hackers, bitcoin is too! better have good security!
ThickAsThieves: i these articles that take so many words to say something you'd see in a tweet
benderp: i think i'll be getting my babe and my pit another puppy here soon.
mircea_popescu: tech crutch. read all about how you don't need to really understand anything about new tech.
ozbot: Bitcoin Is The New PayPal | TechCrunch
dexX7: http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/20/bitcoin-is-the-new-paypal/ slightly related to "scammers kill bitcoin".. half of it is about the beginning of paypal and the troubles they faced
mircea_popescu: benderp if anyone was curious to see how the bega looks.