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chetty: just rehashing the sec exchange
chetty: hopefully people will get the idea and stop shaking in their boots when the gubermint comes calling
MisterE: hah, love that exchange
ozbot: Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
chetty: MisterE, the whole email exchange is at:
MisterE: chetty: thats what I want to know too!
MisterE: [23:25:09] mircea_popescu: but im the elitist asshole to end all elitist assholes.
MisterE: [23:24:57] Ghaleon: your letter to sec was an example of that respectable, legally sound, defiant.. yet friendly
MisterE: [23:24:41] Ghaleon: mp, yes, the challenge is finding that person who can build the epic bridges and present the right face... without going insane for long enough this community is doing an awesomejob
MisterE: [23:23:48] mircea_popescu: Ghaleon as you approach mastery you'll notice the leet asshole is an epic bridge builder type.
MisterE: where is this letter to SEC?
Neil: Shit the last 70-ish blocks have been insanely fast.
mircea_popescu: and with that i'll bid you all a very good nuclear summer!
asciilifeform: oldie but goodie. orlov on twittards / silicon valley / etc. -
mircea_popescu: "i like your nonshooting of myself truly"
asciilifeform: somebody should print cloth crib sheets, like the maps given to british officers during the war, but for americans. contents: 'don't shoot - i know secrets!' in 30 languages.
decimation: there would be concern about the rights of the eskimos
decimation: that logic more than anything explains the lack of nuclear exchange, in my opinion
mircea_popescu: if the russians invade alaska the us citizenry would flock there mostly to tweet about it
decimation: in a duel, you can be certain about the death of the enemy; not so much against the nuclear triad
decimation: a trophy I guess
asciilifeform: decimation: in what sense is the corpse of the fellow you plug in a duel valuable?
decimation: what's the point? they will do that today in exchange for little green peices of fabric
decimation: are you going to mine some coal and grow corn?
decimation: like in what respect would the us free of cities be valuable?
mircea_popescu: extracts the jokes
mircea_popescu: that's the chief value of retrospect
decimation: in retrospect, that seems like a big joke
asciilifeform: the folks who originally built these things weren't hoping to conquer anything. they were satisfied with the idea of: glass parking lots, free of untermenschen.
mircea_popescu: which brings us exactly to why bitcoin is so important.
mircea_popescu: seems more practical to just start a facebook campaign
decimation: well, the other point is that if the goal of your war is to capture the enemy's resources, destroying those brains in the cities is the way to defeat your own purpose
asciilifeform: primary was shaped in such a way that it needed 1) the explosive compression and, 2) a certain blast from neutron generator tube - to pop - and (2) would vary in strength based on background
mircea_popescu: and the thing with megalopolis-oi. cairo yes, cause it's shit. but most modern people live spaced out.
asciilifeform: if i recall, this was solved with some clever finesse (entirely absent in english language literature, afaik) with neutron tubes:
mircea_popescu: yeah that's a problem.
asciilifeform: neutrons from neighbouring blasts would prematurely pop the fissile initiator of a given piece
asciilifeform: i also recall that there was a rather serious problem with 'warhead fratricide'
mircea_popescu: cost 271mn btc to burn up afghanistan.
decimation: (8 300 000 000 000 000 000 joules) / (1 ton of tnt) =1.98374761 × 109
asciilifeform: decimation: that's a famous picture. but - it's a long exposure.
asciilifeform: (incidentally, vladimir chelomei suggested exactly this.)
asciilifeform: why boil the sea. so wasteful. let's do 'great lakes.'
mircea_popescu: so if you want to boil up afghanistan, you're looking at
asciilifeform: well, you can mostly level a megapolis, if you have reasonably-accurate targeting
mircea_popescu: and even that, it's what... a hack.
asciilifeform: incidentally, inverse-square effect is why icbms switched to 'mirv' (multiple warhead) systems instead of one fat bomb.
mircea_popescu: and this if you roughly know the direction. if you don't....
decimation: yeah, you can't carpet-nuke that kind of area
mircea_popescu: well that's 250`000 square miles to look over.
mircea_popescu: like the problem of finding that plane : it only flew what, 500 miles ?
mircea_popescu: but fundamentally : every mile you walk adds more than a square mile to the area you've covered.
mircea_popescu: it's all described in this ancient trilema article http://trilema.com/2011/radiatia-si-corpul-omenesc/
asciilifeform: not the napalm per se
asciilifeform: the fuel in a 'fire job' (as curtis lemay called it) is the kindling you blast the buildings into during the prelude
mircea_popescu: joecool that can't be right, mostly because nuclear power is economical as compared to burning oil.
joecool: mircea_popescu: compared to nuclear weapons? sure
decimation: carpet bombing with napalm would probably be far worse for the average citizen than a nuke going off
mircea_popescu: joecool napalm is mostly oil. thats cheap now ?
mircea_popescu: and as the countries spending billions on them like the people to continue to believe.
decimation: indeed, nuclear bombs aren't nearly as dangerous as people like to believe
mircea_popescu: as long as nobody uses them it's "those incredibly, exceedingly, unrepresentably powerful weapons". after a dozen or so pop it's like... those very expensive, inaccurate things.
mircea_popescu: this works across the board, currently the biggest deterrent to nuclear detonation isn't a bunch of fucktarded chicks that drink tea and blather like sheep. it's simply the desire on all parties that invested billions in these things to avoid proving to the general public that... big fucking deal.
mircea_popescu: if you've never been punched in the face your reptillian brain builds this thing into an endless colossus. if you have, whatever. maybe you lose a tooth, your lip gets swollen. so what of it ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't even have to be all that present, but human beings need experiences, and a balanced diet thereof.
decimation: the parents I know who pratice physical punishment have the most well-adjusted children
mircea_popescu: experience, direct experience, remains the best cure for mental dysfunction.
mircea_popescu: apparently you can't get a fetish going if you get to see the actual object, in all its nude glory.
mircea_popescu: the romans had the following problem to sexual fixations in pubers : exposure.
mircea_popescu: kid that's never been beaten ? nuts.
mircea_popescu: kid regularly beaten is not affraid of the world.
decimation: somehow the risk aversion circuit has gone haywire?
mircea_popescu: kids would love them
mircea_popescu: they should put wheels on the fucking airplane seats.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile they play dice for a 2% house edge. that's okay.
mircea_popescu: that fails to be a 1%
decimation: it does seem that paranoia is the mood of our age
mircea_popescu: i mean, even in the middle of an armed rebellion/invasion your chances to be plugged are what, 1% ?
mircea_popescu: what if the tootbrush gives them an evil look one day ?
asciilifeform: in their guarded enclaves?
mircea_popescu: i wonder how they manage to brush teeth.
mircea_popescu: there's this generation of nuts that fears its own shadow. cops ? hoprrible. the sec ? omaigawd. black kids ? HALP HALP
mircea_popescu: i dunno why this fear of other people seriously.
decimation: which would be awesome for him, but it's not going to happen
asciilifeform: a common criticism of mr moldy (whose every published word, to my shame, i read) is that his entire philosophy seems to reduce to 'the crown exists to guard my suburban house against evil ape men'
asciilifeform: yeah in this particular case, this.
mircea_popescu: well this is all too vague to pinpoint.
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asciilifeform: but re: society and 'hormesis' of theft
decimation: if it is a switching supply and your generator puts out crap AC, you might ruin the dc supply
mircea_popescu: diametric "here's how i try to inject myself in stuff that has nothing to do with me over 5k words. call me michael moore"
decimation: should be fine, don't put too much other stuff on the AC circuit
dub: asciilifeform: noob question im having trouble getting a straight answer, have 20a dc supply that I want to drive (carefully) off 10a of AC mains, bad idea?
decimation: The goal of formalism is to avoid this unpleasant little detour. Formalism says: let's figure out exactly who has what, now, and give them a little fancy certificate. Let's not get into who should have what. Because, like it or not, this is simply a recipe for more violence. It is very hard to come up with a rule that explains why the Palestinians should get Haifa back, and doesn't explain why the Welsh should get London back
decimation: <<mircea_popescu: "underserved" and "unearned" income are exactly the cornerstone of productive economic activity. >> moldbug's solution: formalism http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2007/04/formalist-manifesto-originally-posted.html
mircea_popescu: dub forget that part, that's easy. ever tried to talk to the beast after she's been rubbed raw on marble for half hour ?
mircea_popescu: you two are speaking of different women.
dub: no, tried getting jizz out of felt before?
Diablo-D3: but I thought the point of a pool table was to throw a woman on it and fuck her
dub: its to get away from the woman