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dexX7: 1 btc+ due to the hype
mircea_popescu: obviously difficulty is still popping up, add in delivery and lead-in times and you're looking at a very tenuous bottom line
mircea_popescu: from which you have to repay 6 to 12.8 dollars for the chip + all other setup and fixed costs and make a profit.
mircea_popescu: well that's the end of the story.
mircea_popescu: meh it got moved to mhps huh
dexX7: yea well, the math is biased and doesn't factor in any expenses
mircea_popescu: ok let's then math this.
mircea_popescu: if they average 3% over the next 6 years then they made the 18% in question as it were
dexX7: about the chips: "Rated Hashrate: 12.8GHash/s per chip" + "Power Consumption: 0.2J/GHash low voltage, 0.35J/GHash rated voltage" + "0.49$/G-0.99$/G, depending on order size and delivery speed of choice."
mircea_popescu: not necessarily of the hashpower.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef the 18% is of the total hashes hashed by the network over your arbitrary interval
mircea_popescu: i thought you were somehow calcing the chips roi
dexX7: over one year there can be 1314000 btc mined
dexX7: okay.. there are 400k am shares, so to make 0.6 btc per share you'd need 240000 btc in total
mircea_popescu: dexX7 mind commenting that calc sowe can follow at home ?
VanCleef: they wont achieve that because i dont think they are even mining, just selling chips
mircea_popescu: what do the chips do, i forget. 3gh ?
VanCleef: and am is hardly mining anymore they will just be selling chips
VanCleef: will take you 6 years to make back roi
dexX7: nothing - that's the point
mircea_popescu: dexX7 what's strange about that ?
dexX7: "The first wafers were out in March 22th. The engineering batch of packaged chips will be out in March 28th. After that we can immediately start testing on functionality and power consumption."
dexX7: am to teh moon!
jurov: and some other probs the owner did not explain deeper
jurov: were very slow to fix, too
jurov: then there was a bug where it would eat your money without giving btc
jurov: he wants the machine to sell euros immediately on the exchange, they are unable to deliver that feature
jurov: and they are out of order often
jurov: but the owner is complaining since
benkay: have lamassu shipped any of their ATMs?
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^^
benkay: <phantomcircuit> but that sounded like actual work so i didn't do it
benkay: <phantomcircuit> the better solution is to create a new "key" type that stores
VanCleef: righ t o
benkay: disregard everything after the first pp
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benkay: how's the water, VanCleef?
VanCleef: why are people buying asicminer? may as well keep sending coins to gox
benkay: ah nm, that's basically as good as it gets.
benkay: man my kill ring is bolloxed tonight
benkay: something better than this, plz: and telling customers to get fucked.
benkay: does anyone have a link to the Kraken "oops we dropped 600 BTC on the flor"?
VanCleef: is 10 thousand billion the same as 10 trillion dollars?
chetty: MisterE, cool more than half worked ...maybe
MisterE: "A recent study by the Standish Group, a firm in Boston that researches failures, found that only 5 percent of large federal IT projects in the last decade fully succeeded. Of the rest, 41 percent were failures, canceled before they were turned on."
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benkay: well that's enough research for the night.
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benkay: pay-to-pubkey-hash might still let the
benkay: although, nubbins`, you might be able to force the issue with pay-to-pubkey-hash
benkay: addresses encode the network.
nubbins`: you're saying, for example, someone creates an ATC tx and accidentally executes it on the BTC network instead?
benkay: might end up accidentally opening that address on other chains up to transferring its contents to the address corresponding to your target addr on the other chain
nubbins` ponders this over pale lager
benkay: 'cause i don't know if there's anything chain-specific to transactions
benkay: i haven't had time to investigate this in depth, but don't use the same keys for different altcoins.
benkay: hey here's a weird thought
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu the army only ever answered to nell btw
benkay: i'll take two.
benkay: ;;later tell AusBitBank didja know your nick's being squatted? see WoT.
chetty: methinks its time, people don't like to make bets so far off
nubbins`: not much traction, maybe i was too stingy with the terms
KRS-One: Marginal porn at that. Ie: Playboy.
KRS-One: Only thing free otherwise is
benkay: access to the murderous purplesquirt, i think
nubbins`: which position is this
KRS-One: Maybe such a position gets a complementary (gratis, free) Trilema credits or membership?
nubbins`: got a CIS kit on the way for it too
benkay: nice! capture more of that value stream.
nubbins`: we occasionally get requests for color digital prints, and it's a pain having to outsource it
benkay: whatcha doing with the new printer, nubbins` ?
nubbins`: dan deacon is pretty good, have a listen to "bromst"
benkay: somehow soundcloud thinks i'll like this
TestingUnoDosTre: I really enjoy horns and reggae music though, but that's just me
TestingUnoDosTre: the movie is something like "I believe I can fly (Flight of the Frenchies)". It's only like 75 minutes and it's about high linining (aka tight rope walking)
TestingUnoDosTre: Have you seen this movie, it's pretty unique with a good sound track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hKW8kKXi6g
Mats_cd03: (i'm sorry if nobody else knows what i'm talking about)
Mats_cd03: an almost inaudible, "hello, internets!" sounded off in the back of my mind
Mats_cd03: the mdma cooked your brain after the opener huh
nubbins`: TBH the only performance i really remember from the whole festival is dan deacon
nubbins`: yeah, i saw him too but i can't remember anything about it
Mats_cd03: for some reason your music taste irritates my ear
nubbins`: all i remember is that the backdrop was cool and she kept talking about this guy "miike snow"
TestingUnoDosTre: oooo I think I'm gonna love this
Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/beatsantique/get-lucky-feat-charles-butler solid reproduction of get lucky with the banjo
benkay: whoever sends them to keys under their exclusive control first.
TestingUnoDosTre: alright but if I go make a cold wallet on a flash drive, sell the flash drive to my brother, and tell him that he can't use the coins for 2 years, who owns them?
benkay: you might have bought them, but you don't own them until they show up in your wallet.
TestingUnoDosTre: for instance, if I go an wire 100$ to mark karp, and I trick myself into thinking I purchased some BTC, I don't really own any
benkay: if you stray from that you'll get burned in some way.
Mats_cd03: the story of every swinging dick in the universe
benkay: TestingUnoDosTre: does the "coins you own, coins you don't" thing make sense?
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nubbins`: just keep telling yourself it's not man-made climate change and you'll be okay
benkay: normally it's just rain from December to July 4th straight through
benkay: we're having this crazy balmy spring down south
nubbins`: "sheilagh's brush" is what old folks call this, shit weather in late march
benkay: nubbins`: is that typical for this time of year?!
nubbins`: glad i didn't burn off the kerosene heater yet :D
benkay: look TestingUnoDosTre there are coins you own and coins you don't own.