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duduqa: have you guys seen this: http://www.semana.com/aplicaciones/articulo/peligro-ni-se-le-ocurra-intentar-ganar-plata-con-bitcoin/381503-3
radan: maybe I'll invest the same amount in the other direction to cancel it out
ThickAsThieves: I have a celendar reminder to review bitbet every 3 days
mircea_popescu: a good policy is perhaps to never bet the day you discover a bet
ThickAsThieves: it's amazing how twist a yes or no bet can be
ThickAsThieves: yeah i read a bet like 4 or 5 times before sending
radan: I thought betting yes would return 28x
ThickAsThieves: i'm quite happy the Yes bets are so little
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before that berkshire bet collects 1k on no side
moiety: i'm only ever in my bank when i need to shout at them for fucking something up
MisterE: they mostly rely on computer algorithms and usually give the go ahead from some corporate HQ
radan: and use it like a club to beat on anyone who's not following their "recommendations"
radan: but governments tend to monopolize force
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl it's not changed since last year.
asciilifeform: can't speak for others in the land of the sad, but i haven't been inside a bank in ages.
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mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that may be because they're broke.
ozbot: More Than 30% Of Americans Haven't Visited A Bank In The Last Six Months
radan: that's one of the metrics the government likes to use
ThickAsThieves: i read an article today that says like 30% down or something
ThickAsThieves: well me too
radan: consider that the purpose of a business (from a societal, not individual viewpoint) is to keep as many people as busy as possible
ThickAsThieves: no one goes to banks anymore anyway
mircea_popescu: cut 99.5% of the workforce woreking in a bank, increase salaries for the remainder 10 to 100x
BingoBoingo: Joe Brown is one of those cases of if you stare too deep into the ghetto, you eventually become ghetto
mircea_popescu: everyone else just pushes paper, does forms and bs. that could be done away with
mircea_popescu: currently there's one valuable person per bank office : the credits officer. he's the guy that makes the call if lending is a good idea.
radan: hopefully I won't need to eat those 60 bucks anytime soon
TestingUnoDosTre: I would rather my county have a pompous tv personality judge than a real hard ass judge
mircea_popescu: deadweasel finance couldn't be abandoned, i dont think. merely reduced to it's bare bones.
TestingUnoDosTre: apparently, he was an actual criminal judge for a county back in the day
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He was one of those daytime shows that keep those with nothing to do during the day sated in between ration tickets.
ThickAsThieves: he looks way cooler with that handlebar stache
ThickAsThieves: a tv judge?
bones`: My hometown shining star of Reality TV, mircea_popescu
TestingUnoDosTre: If anyone finds a version of that bitcoin swaps article that contains comments about the winklevoss brothers, please send it to me. I read it earlier today and broke out laughing, but I can't find it now :(
asciilifeform: mark twain's theorem. 'don't join the club that would let you in.'
MisterE: and Iceland is on the same track so in retrospect I'm glad I stayed put
radan: but consider that the reason for this is that everyone shares significant ethnic and cultural bonds you are not privy to
ThickAsThieves: go to switzerland
moiety: i like to top comment re judge judy BingoBoingo
radan: I presume you want to go there because they have a stable society
radan: Iceland's pretty tight on immigration unless you're rich or a refugee
radan: I don't think you can, MisterE
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, of all of the things to have drawn contempt from, asses might not be that bad
mircea_popescu: ~worthless~ coins to peoplke.
ThickAsThieves: an idea of a thing
ThickAsThieves: it's just some guy sending coins to people
MisterE: yea I wanted to move to Iceland for long time now
MisterE: this is the news I'm talking about ThickAsThieves http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-24/bitcoin-swaps-near-reality-as-tera-group-forms-legal-framework.html
ThickAsThieves: is there a year-long auroracoin bet yet?
MisterE: pretty much everyone I know gets hacked for the first time using WordPress
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay that salt stuff sounds like unintended malleability.
ThickAsThieves: "The second way for an Icelandic citizen to receive their auroracoins will be through SMS. The person’s cell phone number will then be matched with their National ID number and once verified the user will receive their auroracoins."
mircea_popescu: concerned parties are advised to send some dust first, that'll verify the address and lock it down
ThickAsThieves: wordpress loving to be compromised n all
mircea_popescu: well it doesn't run wordpress afaik, but that's no absolute guarantee.
ThickAsThieves: it makes a difference if the site can be compromised and depsot addressed get mitm'd
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i was actually contemplating just copy pasting the output of current wp in a html file << notrly such a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell MykelSIlver it makes relatively little difference what software bitbet.us runs, as webserver doesn't really hold coins anywya
ThickAsThieves: i cant respect a btc derivative that doesnt touch btc
ThickAsThieves: "The first way is as follows, since 80% of the Icelandic population is on Facebook, Icelandic citizens will be able to claim their coins simply by logging into Facebook through a gateway."
MisterE: ThickAsThieves: you're talking abotu Tera?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd really love to see the chinese files on nato
TestingUnoDosTre: asciilifeform that is some top secret shit right there 1!!
ThickAsThieves: i assumed it was all the same news
ozbot: Online casino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ThickAsThieves: there were a few today i didnt read em all
ThickAsThieves: i dont think so at least
mircea_popescu: was the wsj story about diff futures ?
ThickAsThieves: but one of the futures i know
mircea_popescu: but from what i've seen these people were trying to sell icbit-style "futures" on the usd
mircea_popescu: diff futures are a pain in the butt
ThickAsThieves: referring to diff futures etc not being the same as USD btc options
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what difference do yo uhave in mind there ?
mircea_popescu: the various stocks either don't have enough volume or, for the non-mpex crowd, arten't actually stocks, don't even publish statements etc
ThickAsThieves: undeliverable isnt the same as non-deliverable
ninjashogun: Do any of you know that site?
MisterE: I dont think I'm understanding everything I'm reading there
ninjashogun: and I was introduced to him explicitly by someone.
ninjashogun: I found the link in my logs. It's http://www.fyrstikken.tv/3993A732-057F-426B-A046-7B44B7ED03D6/Fyrstikken.TV.html
MisterE: yea they are but a robust derivatives market is more than options
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah, everyone's trying to pass off bucket shop bullshit for "derivatives"
ninjashogun: I mean, I forget the name of the link, but it has the term "fyrstikken" in it.
ninjashogun: forget the link - it has fyrstikken in it
ninjashogun: invited to list on his site
MisterE: MP: I see that monthly statement, bummer month, but anyways what am I missing about a derivatives connection? the bonds market?
ninjashogun: fyrstikken was the person
mircea_popescu: jesus im too old for online
mircea_popescu: who the fuck thought someone wants a mentor they've never met.
BingoBoingo: radan: I prefer 0.5.11 to newer multibit releases
moiety: you just listed reasons why you haven't found investment yourself there ninjashogun
ninjashogun: given that there's no due dilligence that can be done. no contracts that can be enforced. no sec. no proof you're not getting scammed. and every listing on crypto stocks is a scam. and the OPERATOR is a scammer. ......... how is anyone investing?
ninjashogun: wait I do want an answer to my question above on why anyone would invest in crypto stocks - don't people with money to invest have standards?
CheckDavid: Exchange currencies without risk of scam at the trade level
ninjashogun: CheckDavid, come to #bitcoins-assets-stupid with me and duduqa
TestingUnoDosTre: you could sell them in neat little batches with different risk profiles... it would be a paradise
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid what do you expect it to do ?
CheckDavid: You mean doesn't do much yet. Or it won't do much of anything in the near future?
mircea_popescu: to go with their infinite hitpoints