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asciilifeform: moiety: pet the manul (tm)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is the coloqualism for a sleeveless undershirt
mircea_popescu: wait wait... the plot thickens
mircea_popescu: "b) is actually Romanian, and perhaps in some relation to the Romanian Foreign service."
asciilifeform: (tldr - psychology crackpot who wrote a taxonomy of human motivations)
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asciilifeform: possible revelance to beetle men discussion:
moiety: i dont mean to contribute more fluff, but we might have to stage an intervention for asciilifeform; first the lolcats, now internet spam, it'll be reflinks next.... :o
cazalla: if i said thongs, i guess you couldn't be blamed for thinking pin skirt
mircea_popescu: wifebeater and pin skirt. now that'd be the outfit.
mircea_popescu: it's not the woman that's intimidating, of course. but she looks like the sort of men that'd pursue her might kill you
BingoBoingo: They wore basketball shorts and a wifebeater to lecture unless they had higher university business on a particular day
mircea_popescu: don't go up and strike a conversation with the tall woman. why not ? well...
asciilifeform: he already knows what he sums to - zero
BingoBoingo: TA'd for them
BingoBoingo: I had a professor like that. Octagenarian stroke survivor.
asciilifeform: there is also the undying, zoological enmity of mediocrity to anything colourful, alive.
mircea_popescu: maybe what the real problem is has more to do with lions. as long as we sit put and do nothing, a lot of pointless, small, provably impotent nothing...
mircea_popescu: but maybe that's only part of the problem.
mircea_popescu: his ready answer is that "The distressing possibility that the oldster agreed to be on the committee so that he would have a venue in which people would listen to him does not occur to the youngster."
mircea_popescu: "This oldster has tenure. He draws the same salary regardless of whether he sits through those interminable boring committee meetings. Why would he agree to do it? Why wouldn't he rather be playing squash, riding a horse, flying an aircraft, walking his dog, etc.?"
benkay: it'll be great roi, take it from a stranger
benkay: velly: you don't have to read the whole logs, just sit and lurk and digest
mircea_popescu: but it's the pointlessness of the activity that strikes me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even sure it's that. maybe it is.
asciilifeform: they exist, and are the muscle, bones, of bureaucracy
asciilifeform: who thrives on 'housing committee' and similar places. takes delight in demolishing orchards, at the owner's expense, for 'violations', and the like.
ozbot: Monty Python - Lion Tamer - YouTube
mircea_popescu: where is that lion tamer schetch
mircea_popescu: people derping about evil government have it all wrong. people WANT to spend their time toiling pointlessly, with small tools.
asciilifeform: the 'beetle type'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the more fascinating observation, reviewing this bowlfull of guts irc has graciously thrown at me, is just how... innate! the bureaucratic behaviour is.
mircea_popescu: not unrelated to "where can i read all about the english language ?" "uh... just pick up a book ?" "what if it sucks ?" "... what do you want from me!"
asciilifeform: i think the dynamics of pediwikia 'deletionism' are vaguely interesting - the innumerable pages on obscure fictional characters, etc. that stand perfectly firm, and so on. but the topic has been beaten to death elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: i think this convo may actually become canonical link-to for future people who have the problem.
mircea_popescu: that's the point :D
velly: well reading that IRC log would simply break my np complexity limits :v
mircea_popescu: the beauty of life on earth is that no one has infinite time.
velly: I have to go now, lunch break over and have work to do. Thanks for everyone's help. Sadly, not everyone has infinite time.
mircea_popescu: among them, making paper out of celophane
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there are probably numerous better uses fdor your time
asciilifeform: answered the 'you are a spammer' fellow, for what that's worth.
mircea_popescu: that you can't figure out that it is reliable and relevant doesn't make it the opposite.
BingoBoingo: velly: So that you might in a year know what parts are reliable
mircea_popescu: chetty i guess, if he were specifically a journalist looking for how to behave in the new, post-fiat world.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I really just wanted to take a picture of the diploma. I spent way too much on it for too little return. Having it in the Dossier at MP intel central at least makes up some of the waste
velly: how can I even know that the discussion in here is reliable or correct?
chetty: the log with the reuters interview would be a good start
velly: I just want to know where to start to inform myself
velly: seems like there are better sources for the information
velly: not everyone has time for that
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you dun have to proveanything, just do something that works.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: mailed, figuring out this GPG for jpg's thing
mircea_popescu: " Dem State Senator Who Authored Gun Control Legislation Arrested for Conspiring to Traffic Firearms"
Apocalyptic: you don't have to read all of it at once you know
velly: but unfortunately I'm not in a position to read long IRC chat logs
asciilifeform: how's that
mircea_popescu: the time you spend reading that stupid fluff will be the best roi of your life.
mircea_popescu: velly it may seem preposterous to begin with, but take the word of a stranger in a chatroom :
velly: thanks guys, I'll have a look into this. I have somewhat of a futures background, but I'd like to make sure I'm well informed before I start on this side of things.
TestingUnoDosTre: who are you guys talking about meow?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shameful thing to be responsible for.
asciilifeform: he took engineering standards very seriously. very much, almost pathologically, a 'future-oriented' fellow
mircea_popescu: velly not really. it's like a monk's life, you know ? no way to separate the learning from the toil.
velly: anything more directly informative? I'm not really sure I want to read through this whole log--- even so far there's a lot of fluff...
BingoBoingo: Lemme GPG and paste the credentials
mircea_popescu: so in that case maybe put together something ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I might actually have training and experience in the education field.
mircea_popescu: but i gather the consensus was, dump everything on lampelina and then scream at her for it not being right.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yes there was.
BingoBoingo: Was there something earlier about needing an education experienced person to contribute to a reading list?
mircea_popescu: "In 1995, Erik started a journalism watch-group project on the web, campaigning to get a journalist sacked from Aftenposten following the publication of a sensationalist story about how Internet Relay Chat channels were used to trade child pornography."
asciilifeform: the man was loaded, left a very well-kept library that was auctioned off. and a cat. was a sort of disillusioned type.
asciilifeform: he did. very treatable disease (gastric something or other) left untreated. it was arguably a kind of suicide by self-neglect
mircea_popescu: you can read that backwards, it's enlightening
mircea_popescu: here. the log is in the topic
mircea_popescu: velly it's a good idea to take your time, read, etc.
mircea_popescu: previous being a jan 2013 thing on naggum
mircea_popescu: check out asciilifeform : ten contributions since 2006.
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asciilifeform: commented on the wikiwankatron, for what that's worth.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete i'm not so crazy about your spacing and formatting of irc snippets
BingoBoingo: Student walks into a bookstore mid semester and sees no textbooks on the shelves, asks the manager what kind of bookstore is this. Manager replies, this is the bookstore you need. You just don't need it now.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 either a) people are insane ; b) there's more afoot than meets the eye ; or c) the options were perceived as more of a risk source than revenue source.
Mats_cd03: can someone explain that?
Mats_cd03: somehow share price managed to appreciate *after* options are pulled
BingoBoingo: benkay: I'm thinking some koans might be relevant.
mircea_popescu: it is now the pimporium.
BingoBoingo: The options emporium is open to anyone willing to MM options without shitting themselves
mircea_popescu: benkay you know how many people ask me about random x y z "wall street outfit" that's going to make an options market and whart do i think etc ?
benkay: the asset by ticker of S.MPOE is alive
benkay: feel free to mm options in btc
benkay: yeah if you think you can beat mp
mircea_popescu: not atm anyway. but yes, if you want to mm options we can work it out
benkay: ya I TO JOO
BingoBoingo: benkay: There can be if you write them
benkay: this is distinct from the bot quoting.
benkay: no, there are no options on sale.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Sure, just the bot is on leave
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