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pankkake: anyway, my question was about /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail - if it's low
then fixing *that* will make higher quality gpg keys faster
pankkake: don't know how rand() works, maybe it polls /dev/*random only once and
then it's a PRNG
Apocalyptic: you're just depleting
the entropy pool for no use
pankkake: your calls
to rand() are either useless or harmful. gpg does its own
thing
tg2: and at 5 keys/s, entropy generation is not
the limitation
tg2: then you have sufficient entropy for gpg
to operate
tg2: none seemed
to have an impact and gpg never complaind about lack of entropy
Apocalyptic: <tg2> which should be causing it
to move seed // dafuq
Apocalyptic: tg2, you're just exhausting
the entropy pool
then
tg2: I'll welcome some patches,
this was
the first perl script i've worked on
tg2: which should be causing it
to move seed
pankkake: I don't understand what
that rand() is supposed
to do
mike_c: vague recollection
that herbisjustleoids is
there, but not sure
tg2: I will
try it on my 48 core system
cazalla: mike_c: I don't know who made
the Australian bet, any other aussies here
that you know of?
tg2: i'll accept
that patch if you want :D
tg2: well i guess i /could/ make it so you had
to sit
there mashing your keyboard all day :D
tg2: it is using perl
to generate entropy
pankkake: your script is using gpg
to generate keys, not perl
tg2: i should have chosen a random amount of random numbers
to generate :)
tg2: provides enough entropy
to get by
mike_c: that looks pretty official
to me.
ozbot: FIFA World Cup Group B
Tables & Results - 2014 - ESPN FC
mike_c: i
thought it was
that
they wouldn't win a game
cazalla: maybe but it's not a win/loss prop, got knocked back first
time because clearly need confirmed stats from some source
cazalla: can anyone recommend a reputable site for sporting results
that can be used for bitbet outcomes? I'm
thinking FIFA.com isn't ideal atm as
there as
the site will likely change once
the world cup starts
the20year3: If enough of our shareholders complain about
the choice, i'll change it, ask havelock
to change it , or not do
the 2nd round, but as of
this
time,
the shareholders I've
talked
to are fine with it
benkay: not allowing
them
to sell at
the same price you are.
the20year3: What am I doing
that screws shareholders?
the20year3: half of
the share volume in
the past week has been in
the past 8 hours since our announcement, if you look at periods prior
to
that volume,
there's almsot none
the20year3: the stock price
that is moving around is being moved by guys who own a few hundred shares and have half a btc in
the exchange
benkay: the20year3: either your investors are
trading on news or
they're not
trading around
benkay: k
there's your answer.
the20year3: The guys
that have given me near $100k? I don't see
them
trading around stock
the20year3: Depends on which investors you're
talking about
benkay: plus, your investors are a bunch of
trend-traders.
benkay: nobody knows how
to value anything in BTC alone, much less mixed-assets.
benkay: the20year3:
this is
the painful part of
touching both rails at
the same
time.
benkay: so
throw your money directly
to
the guy like you did with Gox.
dexX7: i competely get your point and i agree, i'm just
thinking about potential reasons
benkay: the point is
that he's allowed
to sell more shares in his company at above market prices when nobody else is.
benkay: dexX7: so send your money directly
to
the guy - who cares?
the20year3: In our case, with
the decrease of BTC:USD,
the BTC value of our company goes up, because
the vast majority of our assets are denominated in USD, but
the BTC price doesn't accurately reflect it because
the
trades for
the most part just
trend on news
dexX7: benkay: in
this case my intention would not be
to buy shares but
to provide funds for
the issuer
the20year3: The problem is
the value most of
the
time is arbitrary, especially with bitcoin stocks as
the bulk of
the value is just speculation based on whatever positive/negative news is coming out about
the company
benkay: that's an irrational move, dexX7. why not just buy
the shares on
the open market?
Mats_cd03: add some more material
to
the reading list
dexX7: the following case is not possible: say everyone wants
to sell, but i'm still willing
to give
the issuer my coins for whatever reason. non-freezed
trading doesn't allow
this
benkay: they're compounding
this fraud by suspending
the hallowed process of price discovery
to entice another round of suckers into
their finger-trap.
CheckDavid: dexX7: I am just looking for funding solutions in general. Being issuing and selling stock one of
the potential solutions
dexX7: CheckDavid: well, no. i assumed your question was "where can i issue a stock?" and
thus my answer, but maybe you should rephrase your initial question once again.
benkay: the havelock approach is
to fix a price and wait for
the suckers
to come by.
dexX7: benkay: what about
the case
that one puts up a buy wall lower
than
the ipo price and
then undercuts
the issuer? i guess
that would be a reflection of "not enough buyer"?
CheckDavid: Ok so dexX7. Your suggestion is basically
to consider a number of exchanges right?
benkay: dexX7: does
this make sense?
CheckDavid: I feel a bit far away from
that point at
the moment
CheckDavid: I an not
trying
to convince anyone of any business at
the moment
though
benkay: and previous shareholders should get
to sell at .0075 as well.
benkay: if it were really worth .0075
the price would reflect
that.
BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: Well
these
things are going
to color people's reactions. Instead of getting reactively defensive note people's concerns and
think about how you can correct
things in
the future when you want
to actually do
the
thing you solicit advice for, if you make it
too
that stage.
benkay: either
their paper is worth what
the market will pay for it or its not
benkay: in what sane world does
this make sense
CheckDavid: You didn't mention when exchanges
themselves run away
dexX7: benkay: do you
think
there shouldn't be a
trading freeze during a funding round?
benkay: on
the other hand,
there's
the harder and
tougher path
to accredidation with people not engaged in fucking people as a matter of habit in -assets.
benkay: there are all
the scam hosters over
there
that don't require identity or anything, allowing companies like CaVirtEx
to walk off with customer funds and Rentalstarter
to arbitrarily halt
trading so
they can sell
their inflated stock at some imaginary value.
BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: At some point
the kind's of advice you seek might... Imply intentions about how you might use
that advice...
dexX7: but "asking for money" is implied by "i want
to start a business and
therefore i ask about exchanges"
dexX7: wasn't meant
this way
dexX7: CheckDavid:
the point benkay is
trying
to make: don't ask for money, if you have no reputation nor
the willingness
to be "verified"
CheckDavid: Oh sorry benkay . could you please explain
the point?
benkay: i guess you miss
the point.
CheckDavid: benkay: I am not
trading. So I guess I don't need
to be verified?
dexX7: well anyway. basically
there are cryptostocks.com, havelockinvestments.com and mpex.co. if you want
to scam, go
to cs, if you want
to reach
the regular bitcointalk and reddit user, use havelock. mpex is most likely out of your reach.
benkay: "Spoiler: It's not going
to beat betsofbitco.in"
kakobrekla: but its up
to #bitcoin-assets
to come up with
the content
dexX7: the20year3:
thanks again ;)
kakobrekla: mike_c i will put
the curated version of
the piratepad on
the static b-a page
dexX7: there are. mind
to share your business plan?
TestingUnoDosTre: seriously
though. recommended reading is a book from
the Duck Dynasty?
dexX7: didn't you use
the pad
to send me
the message "go find
the submission form instead of asking"?