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the20year2: Well, i could base everything on how I "Feel", but i don't know that my feelings would have any impact on others
asciilifeform: death statistics are a tiresome subject. no one dies of statistics.
the20year2: Compared to 3,500 drowning deaths, 750 people beat to death with hands and feet, 40,000 alcohol related deaths and 500,000 tobacco related deaths
the20year2: Among all accidental firearm discharges in the US , there were 600 deaths last year
asciilifeform: perhaps no one, but others want to keep theirs - and their domestic animals, window glass, etc.
mike_c: the20year2: again.. seems misleading. is that just for gun owners?
bounce: well, it's a bit of a problem if that son first shoots half a magazine worth of neighbours
mircea_popescu: the best way to raise boys is to regularly give them enough rope to hang themselves and then enforce the hanging once they started it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i seriously don't see who'd like to keep that particular son.
the20year2: And you're more likely to be in a car accident 100 times over than an accidental firearm discharge
Mats_cd03: thats the reasoning, anyway
Mats_cd03: youre more likely to die to a negligent discharge than to a home invasion
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 by the same argument, people who die by negligent discharge deserve to die anwyay /
the20year2: Why not require the same of police officers too? Since they have the same, or more negligent discharges than civilians
asciilifeform: my understanding is that such locks are usually meant against the owner's sons rather than enemies
the20year2: You think most people can do that when their door is being busted down?
mircea_popescu: what are you making there, a hope chest ?
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 two different locks ?
Mats_cd03: if it takes you a minute to remove two locks and assemble the weapon you deserve to die to a home invasion
the20year2: Negligent discharges are quite low overall and are decreasing by pretty large amounts in the US
Mats_cd03: if that was imposed, people dying of negligent discharges would drop 90%
the20year2: which prevents access in time of emergency or delays a theif by a whole minute or two
Mats_cd03: in practical terms securing the weapon means two different locks for the bolt carrier group and the upper receiver
the20year2: The technological prerequisite to production of a firearm is quite low
mircea_popescu: it will hopefully survive all that crud.
mircea_popescu: the gun was there before there were privileges, rights or beliefs
bounce: well, there's more to it than that. in the USoA there's also a strong cultural current that requires guns. and, relatedly, something to fight, so they'll keep on looking for exactly that. in that sense two wars at the same time is them 'merkins having a cultural field day.
Mats_cd03: i believe should be compelled to prove competency with it as well as commit to securing the weapon
the20year2: I feel that the ability to adequately defend yourself and your family isn't just a right, it's required
Mats_cd03: i believe owning a weapon is a privilege rather than a right
the20year2: i just don't like the people that complain about the legal constructs of the state for self defense and want to make it illegal to defend yourself
asciilifeform: a fixation on hardware is one of the 'professional diseases' of technological civilization
mircea_popescu: people who shoot you the moment you've looked the wrong way are quite different from people who scuffle with you over their own gun which then sorta-accidentally discharges.
asciilifeform: but is there a division there?
asciilifeform: hundreds of wounded, plus women and children 'shields', enough artillery to equip a division
mircea_popescu: only after beating the shit out of the eventual shooter for half an hour.
asciilifeform: pLambert: picture one of those palestinian hospital-cum-armoury places
the20year2: double barreled shotguns count as two!
mircea_popescu: the monkey got shot, in the end, it's true
mircea_popescu: there's a lot more to that man angle than anyone readily admits. take that recent treysomething or the other case.
pLambert: I don't get it, whats the diff between barrels-per-man and guns-per-capita?
bounce: though there's the ROTM
bounce: too bad dual wielding isn't what the gamer kids believe it is
pLambert: according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country the US has the most guns per person
bounce: that they do. not like the US couldn't see it coming, or anything. just that china can make do with very little. on top of that, they do have what looks like decent kit these days.
mircea_popescu: a woman can be trained.
the20year2: All the guys I know in china hate the women there
Mats_cd03: if the country wasnt shitty in other ways id love to live there, social stability and chinese women sounds great
Mats_cd03: it is remarkable to me that the greatest danger to chinese public safety
mircea_popescu: bounce actually, that was the 70s. today, china leads the us in the space race.
bounce: china has lots of cannon fodder. add some cheap mass-produced tat, and any opponent still has a bit of a problem.
mircea_popescu: from mongolia to some stan
mircea_popescu: i imagine it's somewhere in the ex-russian central asia.
asciilifeform: i would guess (by no means an expert guess, but that of armchair general) that the 'most barrels per man' is somewhere in the arab world
the20year2: China arms most of the middle east with weapons
Mats_cd03: they certainly do have a habit of burying them and then digging them up for use against invaders every few hundred years
Mats_cd03: i see your point, although im thinking of privately owned small firearms
asciilifeform: granted their arms might still be buried in the ground, as ore, at the moment
asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: the well-armed are the folks with the industrial capacity. and that would be who - if not china ?
Mats_cd03: interestingly, china is not well armed compared to the rest of the world
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.43923397 BTC to 4`857 shares, 50221 satoshi per share
rithm: but i now i just see the spin cycle
rithm: lately i find lawsuits to be some sort of method for absconding or hiding sums of monies
Mats_cd03: i was mostly thinking that the round is superior, is all. the weapons and rounds themselves are lighter than their counterparts
mike_c: geez, those furry beasts in the water on trilema are so cute i'm going to puke.
asciilifeform: unless mexico makes the difference.
asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: history suggests that the 'lead standard' mode of a given country is strictly connected to what can be pilfered from military supplies, when the men guarding them turn free agent. so you're almost certainly correct.
Mats_cd03: asciilifeform: the 556 will prevail, in answer to your question.
punkman: "It should take an Act of God to start up in anything but the best possible security you can manage. A Presidential Order doesn't cut it. "
punkman: relevant to "proper backend"
mircea_popescu: now that's a great link punkman
rithm: i see a lot of channels but only some of them light up
rithm: that's a highlevel observation type question
rithm: is this the new -otc where the mindless chatter happens
mircea_popescu: much better to just make mpex run the current version of "banks" out of business completely,
mircea_popescu: bounce it's a moot point. banks aren't able to buy it anyway, unless the govt says do it.
bounce: somebody needs to write a banking front-end that actually makes sense. features like ability to feed it your gpg key. I'd write it except I have no contacts with banks so they'll never buy such off of me. (what give software away? to *banks*?)
Mats_cd03: punkman: if youre unlucky you'll spend $200-500 to recover it
bounce: banking security: bank sends plain text passwords in email. says it's safe because to log in you also need to know an email address. *that* email address, yes.
mircea_popescu: apparently, if you mostly follow chicks on twitter your timeline is full of women.
punkman: well shit, disk just had the CLICK OF DEATH, I think I lost a wallet
mircea_popescu: i think he means a different sort of fraud detection.
CheckDavid: 2:13:02 PM mircea_popescu her tits will always point downwards on the long run, no matter what she wears.
mircea_popescu: you trying to say the girl is going down ?
CheckDavid: You know? The pair?
kakobrekla: ;;later tell davout the printing to pdf you suggested was rejected > "unreadable / bad quality / truncated (4)"
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: fundamental analysis revealed that pair is in a downward trend
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell benkay i also quite enjoyed your last 2 articles. https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/449428017115181056 https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/449428228780740609
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: descending trend?
bitcoinpete: more taleb, this time on options: http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/OptionPricing.pdf
bitcoinpete: i put tramborghini doors on my escalade
CheckDavid: Ok. Thanks Mats_cd03
mircea_popescu: teh tramborghini!
Mats_cd03: ya dude its the blackest market
Mats_cd03: i hate the internet... stupid spaces
mircea_popescu: the problem with learnin accounting is that it's not an art, it's a craft. you can perhaps learn philosophy in your own time, of \your own volition. accounting however requires a reshaping of your mental process, which people never undertake willingly.
Mats_cd03: i did find an excellent pdf on finance earlier today for an aspiring quant
Mats_cd03: CheckDavid: i dunno, khan academy does alright, but i took accounting when i was in university - up to you to find a good resource
mircea_popescu: Kolin Burgess, a British bitcoin investor who spent much of Tuesday protesting outside of Mt. Gox’s abandoned office, in Tokyo, told a reporter for Reuters that he thought he had accumulated Bitcoins that were worth three hundred thousand dollars at the market’s peak. “I’m very angry,” he said. “It looks like that’s disappeared.”
mircea_popescu: also, brb, gotta trample this mouse underfoot.