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tg2: I /think/ it's actually below the frost line but I wouldn't want to test it out
mircea_popescu: there's criteria to choose where to live.
mircea_popescu: but ideally, people should live in places where a properly dug cellar maintains a proper temperature with no exceptions.
mircea_popescu: ya that's the end of it
tg2: you just ruined thousands of bottles
tg2: I have a pit cellar (under the house) and cold air tends to make it's way down there
mircea_popescu: do you have to heat the cellars up there ?
tg2: next time you guys are in montreal ping me we'll hit the cellar :)
punkman: same thing is shipped to France and bottled, then sold to Americans for a huge premium
punkman: I got this box of wine here that was about 3eur/litre.
tg2: I would go for some italian super tuscans
mircea_popescu: they make something like 10 mn bottles a year, most of it sold as entry and mid range wine. if you run into it tho buy it, because it's probably the best you'll ever drink at that price level.
mircea_popescu: this'be the winery about 20 miles from here.
tg2: anyway, all this to say fuck government monopolies
tg2: at the back of a fridge
BingoBoingo: I have trouble trusting a brand named after something a brand is supposed to have, rather than actually having its own
tg2: but the wine has more lineage
tg2: yes they are
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tg2: puts california on the map imo
mircea_popescu: i thought that was a flat panel tv maker o.O
mircea_popescu: no, im in romania. close to recas.
tg2: you can try
tg2: you're close to napa I'm guessing
mircea_popescu: but i've yet to have a decent us wine.
tg2: I guess we have different taste in wine :)
mircea_popescu: the finest cognac in the world goes for ~55 a bottle.
tg2: I thought it was sacha grey in that pic
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tg2: from the grocery
benkay: i was going to say.
tg2: not from the butcher, but in any respectable restaurant
tg2: 12oz AAA tenderloin is $45+ in most places here
BingoBoingo: St Louis also has a sort of privately run beer welfare, take the free AB brewery tour and get two beers at the end
benkay: what's even more funny is that canadian beef is cheaper here than it is up there.
tg2: probably one of the worst examples of government monopoly
tg2: an $80 bottle of wine in florida can be $300+ by the time it gets here
benkay: the monopoly is a horrendous thing.
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BingoBoingo: The image midpage almost captures the scale of the place
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is that chicago ?
asciilifeform: places where shops get robbed beyond some critical frequency tend to sprout 'chechen'-style kiosks. picture a shipping container, perhaps with a bit of extra armour, with a small hole.
BingoBoingo: Walk up to the counter, walk out with a keg
BingoBoingo: benkay: Here we have liquor and tobacco superstores where you can browse the aisles
benkay: oh it's the most hilarious in the occupied cascadian territories, BingoBoingo
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's how they do pond shops here.
asciilifeform: elsewhere, it is sold like ordinary things
asciilifeform: benkay: in the cities. it is sold through a little window, like movie tickets.
benkay: mircea_popescu: most places in the US alcohol is only touchable by the clerks.
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asciilifeform: lets you out if your balance - minus the prices reported by radio tags on the junk in your bags - is positive
mircea_popescu: they DO however rfid the hell out of alcohol bottles
asciilifeform: one day we will probably see shops where you enter and leave through a 'man trap'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz you live in the sticks. they don't bother with that shit here.
benkay: asciilifeform: that is what i'm driving at.
asciilifeform: and who would chase a genuine thief? the 'minimum wage' clerk?
asciilifeform: the alarm goes off many times, every day, cries wolf
benkay: asciilifeform: this defense ignores the store mandates that store employees not actually do anything during a theft for fear of liability.
asciilifeform: same kind of bag used to house static-sensitive electronics, but larger.
asciilifeform: the shop clerk disarms it with some electro crap built into the cash register, and snips off the alarm wire
benkay: asciilifeform: there aren't zappers floating around?
asciilifeform: re: http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1 << every bottle of laundry crap, in every shop, where i live - has a bulky rfid alarm gizmo chained to it.
benkay: there's nothing there.
benkay: not much to understand, the20year2.
the20year2: i've never understood homeopathy, and i don't think most who believe in it do either
asciilifeform: good thing james randi didn't eat a kilo of that one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: everywhere the thing grows
mircea_popescu: and in medieval crimeea, scythic times.
asciilifeform: where the drug is - literally - shared with friends.
asciilifeform: and their 'amanita muscaria'
asciilifeform: then there are the Chukchas
mircea_popescu: so in a sense, rent for the ghetto is paid in grams.
the20year2: but look at top employers in ghetto areas
rithm: erm tideUSD
the20year2: I'd love to see the data
rithm: well alcohol and tobacco consume large portions of the blue collar paycheck
the20year2: you mean ghetto food too?
rithm: mircea_popescu i have supporting data based on my surroundings that confirm your hypothesis
the20year2: i know soap theft is pretty big
mircea_popescu: i suspect on average about 1/3 of available resources goes to chemicals.
mircea_popescu: rithm if us ngos were actually useful rather than a cozy retreat for useless white cunts, we'd have some research data available as to actual economic expenditure of ghetto household
the20year2: Tide? The soap?
rithm: i'm very intriqgued by the tideUSD market though
mircea_popescu: well... or used to, i guess bitcoin changes that.
mircea_popescu: i think most everyone here does.
rithm: i personally operate mostly in the bezzle space obv
mircea_popescu: look around the seams, usually where the typographical allignment marks are.
rithm: i'll have to do more grocery shopping to confirm this theroy
rithm: are you sure? when did that start?
mircea_popescu: rithm they do.
rithm: if only they'd print serial numbers on all those tide bottles...
mircea_popescu: navhul-lacsup well nice toi have you anyways.
asciilifeform: curtis found a dog turd, dried for years, and decided that it is hard enough to whittle bullet from