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tg2: gonna be better than wasting hashes on nothing
asciilifeform: make the field large enough, and everyone is reduced to swapping to disk! ☟︎
tg2: I have a useful distributed work coin project on the burner
asciilifeform: and a turing-complete automaton
samO_: haven't had internet conn. for almost two days! nearly lost my mind... :D what happend in the mean time, anything significant?
asciilifeform: (and possibly not even then)
asciilifeform: given that GOL is proven turing-complete, it would follow that there is no generic shortcut to nth-state
asciilifeform: incidentally, hashlife starts grinding to sub-naive speed if your playing field is complex
gribble: Langton's ant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <;' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langton's_ant>; Langton's Ant - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X-gtr4pEBU>; Langton's Ant -- from Wolfram MathWorld: <http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LangtonsAnt.html>
asciilifeform: everyone is invited to try it
asciilifeform: and there is, afaik, no proof that it is always built
asciilifeform: and there is presently no known means of predicting, other than by running the ant, when the bridge will be built
cads: looking up "hash life" on youtube got me to a video by "Swag Sensei"
asciilifeform: this doesn't require you to hash the entire playing field
asciilifeform: the output of the 'hash' can be 'starting on which move'
asciilifeform: in that the answer is very compact
cads: asciilifeform: is hashlife hard or surprisingly easy to understand?
mircea_popescu: then again, at least for life there are purely math algos
mircea_popescu: no good reason not to chain them
asciilifeform: (of the grid bits)
asciilifeform: or rather, a conventional cryptographic hash thereof
asciilifeform: say, 1e8-th state is the hash.
mircea_popescu: would it hold as a hash tho
cads hates not knowing what's going on in the criminal sector of computer science
cads: god it would be so great to find out these guys actually use next generation compiler tech to specialize their viruses to the hardware :)
mircea_popescu: moiety no, they don't have central government.
moiety: americans: do you have a gov site dedicated to people records?
mircea_popescu: none of this ram ostrich bs
asciilifeform: heterogeneity of gpu makes the bot artist's job tricky
mircea_popescu: actually, as a purely academic point, does anyone know a hash that is genuinely cpu-favourable ?
cads: I hadn't thought that
asciilifeform: what part of this is a secret
cads: lol, x11's site begins "With professional Scrypt mining hardware on the way it is time to look for the best alternative hashing solution that will keep crypto currency within reach of everyone."
tg2: Cause botters dos exchanges to make $
asciilifeform: why this mega-interest in coins optimized for botnet mining?
tg2: Knc is legit though
tg2: vertcoin is the only hope for no-asic and I'm sure it will happen
tg2: still 50x more than gpu lol
cads: though I thought the memory requirements of scrypt is what made it inefficient to try to solve with an asic.
tg2: I hope scrypt responds poorly to Asic difficulty hike
cads: moiety: at least one company I've seen are claiming to be shipping a scrypt asic
tg2: knc is gonna kill it though
PObro: kncMiner has some scrypt miners for Q2/Q3 this year.
moiety: are scrypt asics a thing yet?
benkay: as their value decreases, so does hashpower from professionals applied against them.
benkay: maybe the infinitely inflating currencies live on in the processors of cpus and gpus
moiety: plenty, in the beginning at least, all the galters are cpu poolers too
benkay: dage i gather, but does that still hold true?
benkay: are there any alts which one can mine with a cpu and at least get a few?
moiety: i don't personally doge, well i mined 41 to learn the process. such wealth.
benkay: moiety: you might be the first person with a good reason to implement m of n signing
moiety: also, citroen>renault if we are keeping to french
moiety: very true
mircea_popescu: better than vauxhalls.
moiety: citroens arent very good though
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you're going there, trapzderati
moiety: thats fair enough, i was just at that point having everything done for me
mircea_popescu: and wd on the citroen! it may be a trabamborghini, but it's the french trabamborghini.
mircea_popescu: make two or w/e.
mircea_popescu: so don't do that.
mircea_popescu: well it's not really how they're supposed to work.
moiety: and for the site. me + dev had access
moiety: benkay the badge is right there! citroen
asciilifeform: moiety: this'd be more like sharing toothbrush.
mircea_popescu: anyone know the car brand ?
moiety: couldn't you have a couple of people using an address though?
moiety: got distracted saving tabs... ironically to speed up browser
gribble: PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/>; Signature Thursday: Geany a GUI text editor for GPG tasks | Bingo ...: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/31/signature-thursday-geany-a-gui-text-editor-for-gpg-tasks/>; Bingo Blog | - of Bitcoin and Boingo: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/>
TestingUnoDosTre: which one was the BingoBoingo guide?
mircea_popescu: log in with either, update the other as needed.
mircea_popescu: you can change them anyway.
benkay: addrs and identities are two separate extremes on the spectrum
benkay: cazalla you don't need to put bitcoin address into wot
cazalla: moiety: thanks, time to learn this gpg stuff i guess
Mats_cd03: http://www.perfectfry.com/products/spinfresh/ centrifugal deep fat fryer for that delicious crisp layer of chicken...
moiety: men: toasters, youredoinitwrong
cazalla: should i register a gpg key in addition to bitcoin address for wot or is a bitcoin address enough?
mircea_popescu: dem bitches looooove that bacon
mircea_popescu: benkay trade it for sum bitches
benkay: i don't need all the bacon sheesh that'd be greedy now
asciilifeform: it's true!
kakobrekla: moiety i did came through didnt it.
mircea_popescu: please redirect all things which are bacon to benkay
asciilifeform: everyone in usa knows that one
asciilifeform: aha that one
gribble: Edward FitzGerald (poet) - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Edward_FitzGerald_(poet)>; The Moving Finger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moving_Finger>; Omar Khayyám - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khayy%C3%A1m>
moiety: kakobrekla: you are a man too huh
mircea_popescu: and whatever it writes, is the future.
Mats_cd03: so the heavenly forge is definitely fan fiction right?
kakobrekla: order a pizza and put in a toaster
mircea_popescu: the heavenly forge is this quill
Mats_cd03: i looked it up on google and the second link was 'fanfiction.net'
moiety: benkay, this is worse than i thought. just phone a pizza for now
mircea_popescu: hm, am i the only one that knows what the heavenly forge is ?
mircea_popescu: benkay gimme the heavenly forge for a week, it'll happen.
benkay: there are hard things in the kitchen for sure
moiety: ok so benkay do you have any little hard yellow shaped things in the kitchen that look like this? http://siciliangirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Fusilli_pasta.jpg
benkay: mircea_popescu: never going to happen.
mircea_popescu: one almost dares hope that a wholesale repeal of commerce clause jurisprudence may fix teh us
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and of course it is, as always, based on the commerce clause.