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mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950196 << it's supposed to be ; the only alternative for pull-style interaction would be... bash, i guess ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 21:31:42 lobbes: just to remind, it was decided that the bot itself would be on the stan logbot tree. And indeed, that is what the current mp-wp-bot.kv.vpatch rests on right now
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07 mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 21:31:39 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950085 << I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you want me to release a separate mp-wp patch for the xmlrpc.php fixes before we deploy the bot?
lobbes: on second thought, I guess redundancy doesn't necessarily follow from "more convenient to run a logger". Okay, I restate my second merit to simply be: "convenience" (for what that is worth)
lobbes: on the subject of "blog-logger" in general, I do see merits. For e.g., as a matter of course the issue of echoing log lines will need to be resolved. If that resolution ends up leveraging the server-side selection, then this opens the door to the quoting articles ~in general~ into IRC
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57 mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950130 << I do not. There exist both the irssi2tmsr and znc2tmsr patches to the stanlogger. In said logger, both of them convert logs to a format that is then fed to the postgres database. Conceivable to just make something similar, though, that would feed them into a mysql database
lobbes: But still, python-istic at the core (which does comply with your original spec).
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46 mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950107 << which relates to this; the above patched bot is still python-powered. (Granted, the flask bits have been removed, along with dependencies on things like the "Requests" library, etc.)
lobbes: just to remind, it was decided that the bot itself would be on the stan logbot tree. And indeed, that is what the current mp-wp-bot.kv.vpatch rests on right now
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07 mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950085 << I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you want me to release a separate mp-wp patch for the xmlrpc.php fixes before we deploy the bot?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:43:55 hanbot: mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
hanbot: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949944 < this is gonna take me an extra 24-48h; the reading's worthwhile and denser than i imagined. after which i'll publish my accumulating notes. 'til then, diana_coman graciously plonked her logger in #trilema-hanbot, and all are welcome.
BingoBoingo: Pacific coast has Lima, Santiago, and other second and their tier targets. Asian side of Pacific I'm not particularly interested, prioritizing on the level of western european shitholes that don't speak Spanish.
mircea_popescu: certainly better fucktoys walking the street than anything on the pacific assrim
BingoBoingo: ty, In that case I'll move Belgrade up with the first round of Atlantic Rim targets.
mircea_popescu: republic of moldavia, serbia etc are in the 500 zone
mircea_popescu: no dude, nobody in yurp makes 500 lol. it's 1k on the low end (ro, pl, cz, etc) to 4-5k on the high end. france makes like 3k
BingoBoingo: This has since changed with the pesofall
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: At least for the first half of 2019 their very flat wages normalized into dollars were above much of eastern Europe. 20,000 pesos was 600 USD to 700 USD versus the holy European 500 USD
mircea_popescu: they make the same ~500 a year bulgarians make, half a ro wage.
mircea_popescu: no fucking way tjhey make more than euros ?!
BingoBoingo: I think I've convinced a few people that "stability" is why they make more than Europeans while being poorer since... WTF can they buy?
BingoBoingo: The local commie pick for next econ minister if they win is promising "to continue increasing Uruguay's economic stability" as though stability is not the road to death and bad fruit
BingoBoingo: Especially if they can't shoot the lesser theives for Oslo larp reasons.
mircea_popescu: really hard to run a 40 thieves' cave where the lesser theives don't steal anything
BingoBoingo: Second time this year I caught one of those. Looking like an emerging trend afflicting large WoTless enterprises
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/11/trend-micro-staff-sold-customer-information-outside-of-management-direction/ << Qntra -- Trend Micro Staff Sold Customer Information Outside Of Management Direction
mircea_popescu: as it turns out, modern economy takes 3 women teams at a minimum.
mircea_popescu: between the store-supplied wench running the ding machine and the home-brought wenches putting stuff on / taking it off the conveyorbelt, i daresay i run the world's most efficient supermarket operation.
BingoBoingo: Nice. That does seem like the fix navigating the beast.
mircea_popescu: really the supermarket was invented for men with paris of girls, it's the only way that shit works right.
mircea_popescu: but, i must say, two-girl shopping trips are a delight. i just watch and nod while the people of walmart look from my switch to my bitch an' from my foods to my whores.
mircea_popescu: needed three carts and two bitchez to handle it all, ended up stuffing the car with smoked salmon by the pound &cetera
BingoBoingo: Just returned from getting groceries and a VGA to HDMI cable to get hardware specs outta the servers for prospective buyers
mircea_popescu: (spoiler : just another fat dude talking into the camwhore's instrument, like every other esltarded "comedian" / "content producer" etc)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, none of those.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, well, vieux montmartre, not the current sadness.
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2013/why-you-cant-invest-with-cryptostocks/ or http://trilema.com/2013/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-picostocks/ http://trilema.com/2016/fred-wilson-is-an-idiot-and-other-things/ http://trilema.com/2013/the-dork-of-the-month-award/ Candidates that clicked for the article you wanted yesterday
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/#comment-1505 << Proposal for the auction of your hardware.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, will see if error.log reveals anything at a glance
diana_coman: no, I know, I grew up on French, not on English really; but if it's at that, I'd go at least for jojo se prenait pour voltaire et pierre pour casanova et moi, moi qui etais le plus fier moi, moi je me prenais pour moi
mircea_popescu hums "Emportés par la foule qui nous traîne, nous entraîne nous éloigne l'un de l'autre ...Je lutte et je me débats mais le son de ma voix s'étouffe dans les rires des autres....Et je crie de douleur, de fureur et de rage, et je pleure... "
hanbot considers what to put on 12.5hr playlist to accompany the article-scroll
mircea_popescu: incidentally, when i do that, we're looking at a solid eight years aka 3k articles or so. it'll be an insane log day. i intend to publish them 15s apart or something.
mircea_popescu: and if i do that, i'd better do it before i publish later logs on trilema, so the guids aren't in three waters.
mircea_popescu: because i'm thinking... i should probably just import all antique logs, have them in one place finally.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
diana_coman: I'll go and talk to those guys to see if I can get a server with them.
mircea_popescu: it'll prolly come out as a much greater addition to the world than the remainder of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, nah, i'm with you, forget about it. ima go take a shit
mircea_popescu: there he sat, the fuckhead, FOR YEARS, "oh, one day will mp-wp, hurr durr". one day, rite. then, when push came to shove, DID NOT KNOW what didn't know. because hadn't done. because etcetera.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: sigh; you'd be surprised perhaps but I doubt it's worth the time to describe in much more detail.
diana_coman: well, not able to notice + comprehend reality = in own head, ofc, where else remains.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, what fucking ideals ever demand the breakage of a unusable cvasi-blog ?
mircea_popescu: idealism is one thing. the worship of "shit we know an' are used to" is not idealism. nor is it any kind of conservatism, it's crypto-stupidity ; the same sense of crypto contemplated in 1990s "crypto-communism". cryptic, hermetically sealed in the shit in one's head, outside of the reach of thought.
diana_coman: and that's all that matters
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that's precisely it, the "who or if uses" does not even enter into consideration there; it's built "because it should be so according to the ideals"
ossabot: (asciilifeform) 2019-10-28 asciilifeform: if mp wants to throw out the people who are his hands, like used candy wrappers, it's b/w him and odin, i have no power to persuade him of anyffin. but it remains the case that i'm fully equipped to provide machine service to my l1 folx who want it. and w/ very short turnaround. all service req's are to be gpg'd to asciilifeform, and posted here. will use deedbot for so long as able, then will have to make other ar
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 01:58:11 asciilifeform: can persuade mp_en_viaje to xor ?
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-09-10 diana_coman: structure of thought first and foremost; and note that idealism is precisely the inability to see (notice+comprehend) much of the fabric of reality.
mircea_popescu: can you ~fucking belive~ that utterly moronic "scientist" NOT ONLY was too fucking special in his shit-for-brains mind to actually use working solutions "over all these years", but actually vomited an entire EXTRA pile of expensive yet worthless dependencies into our process ?
diana_coman: looking forward to the demo.
diana_coman: I still have to figure that out exactly what it does, how it works and so on; I'll have to look into it then.
mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
mircea_popescu: why not just switch to the mp-wp patch ?
diana_coman: I am maintaining the logger and I intend to maintain it but any further development can happen only when I get some pages finally up to speed to help as I really don't have currently ~any time left to sink in that.
mircea_popescu: well, they were mentioned in the sense spyked apparently wants to spend the remainder of the year fucking with them.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: re-reading the discussion yesterday it occured to me that the loggers & irc weren't mentioned at all
diana_coman: so thank you and I'll get back to you on that.
diana_coman: I might take you on the offer there for my blog if I don't manage to scare up something locally; I have currently some guys next door that I want to talk to, they seem to be at least talkable-tio
mircea_popescu: younghands/yourblog etc can also go there if you wish.
mircea_popescu: i intend to put bimboclub, thewhet, eulorawebsite etc on the trilema backup server lobbes is comissioning.
mircea_popescu: in which case, should get a 8+ core amd of some kind, 32+gb and a coupla disks, raidless ok, and then review for upgrade in what, a few months ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: we will also need some lightweight place to set up the website
diana_coman: just the prod needs to be on dc
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I had the "stale page" thing on your blog ~10 times and only now (after letting it be for a while funnily enough) it went through
mircea_popescu: so to be clear here, you specifically want two dc hosted machines, one dev one prod ? or are you happy with home-hosted dev ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: review as in finally being able to actually benchmark the server and get some concrete idea as to what it needs ; as a result it might be a new machine, yes.
mircea_popescu: on trilema/s xmlrpc.php as a private fix (which still dun work correctly, for some yet undiscovered reason spaces get eaten), but anyways, select should output no empty e.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
diana_coman: I should mention that we'll possibly need to review this once we do the release (ie dev server goes into production with the smg communications protocol and hopefully decrufted of most shit otherwise)
diana_coman: re use, the heaviest part is db queries really.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 20:57:25 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949915 - preference is for AMD arch as easiest & more familiar to deploy on & work with; that being said, if no AMD available, will go with Intel; for concrete specs, the current server is rather undemanding and it ran fine on fx-8350 eg something like this should work absolutely fine.
lobbes: (plus whaack iirc has his sights on this for fixing anyways)
lobbes: the 'pingback linkback' selector is still suffering from the strip-spaces bug whaack found in the xmlrpc.php, but as that is outside of the scope of the logotron tree I figure that can wait for another day and this bot can be put to bed.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: before I commit this fix to a patch, do the excerpts on these comments look saner to you as well? http://blog.ericbenevides.com/2019/11/generic-pingback-target/#comment-134
mircea_popescu: at least, that's my takeaway.
mircea_popescu: the original trb work suffered from a massive aglomeration of -ev workforce.
mircea_popescu: not that i blame the pm, there wasn't one. but the fundamental reason why "adding more manpower to a late project only makes it later" is that lots and lots of "manpower" is actually -ev.
mircea_popescu: i expect the principal problem of trb attempt was horrid management.
trinque: the main problem with such a project is how large it is. there were several folks on just trb, for a bit anyway.
mircea_popescu: suppose you talk to both fellas here about the thing, i wanna follow along
trinque: yeah, I'd be happy to talk to both fellas about the thing.
mircea_popescu: trinque, suppose spyked's game, and what you have to do is run the two fellows + whatever we can meaningfully accrete through the tmsr-ization of cuntoo.