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antephialtic: down the toilet?
antephialtic: what about all the capital they raised?
locksmith: I haven't called scam. all I'm saying is that they got to a point where they can't pay back their creditors. i.e. they owe over 150,000 euros to their marketing/pr firm Telia & Pavla BBDO
antephialtic: regardless of the tradeing being stopped, surely a competent/engaged CEO would have issued a statement to reassure investors?
antephialtic: and MP, that explains the trading freeze, not the disappearance of the CEO
mircea_popescu: antephialtic i dunno that scam was ever seriously argued other than as a technicality.
antephialtic: locksmith, seems like a very elaborate scam, no? why not just steal all the money after the IPO, why go to all the trouble of building a storefront and advertising, etc.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves locksmith these things seem a little contradictory.
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locksmith: I'm an uninvolved observer as well but have 2 individual sources within Neo. the hard truth is that for the past week the employees could not get ahold of DB, and their paychecks will probably not be met for the month of March (they haven't been paid yet from what I know)
ThickAsThieves: Neo compliance officer did make a formal recommendation to halt
VanCleef: i think havelock will close down sometime this year
mircea_popescu: havelock is under a lot of pressure because all their scammy assets are turning into a visible loss, so rather than man up to it they prefer to simply close trading as the bubbles pop.
mircea_popescu: antephialtic my own theory, as a completely uninvolved observer, is this :
antephialtic: "questionable trading"
mircea_popescu: locksmith hopefully they don't keep on with this or else maged might ban newsit.com.cy
locksmith: and then just translates bits and pieces from the coindesk article
locksmith: also the article goes on and on wondering how many people danny took money from
antephialtic: TaT: do you actually know why the shares stopped trading?
novusordo: "Coinbase provides your full transaction history to the FBI, FinCEN and IRS every day. They are under a gag order."
locksmith: they're saying that them (newsit.com,cy) as well as Politis newspaper tried to contact the company and could not get ahodl of them
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be ironic if neobee ends up getting more press for free now than they got back when they were paying for it ?
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locksmith: - trading of company's stock halted
locksmith: title: "NeoBee ceo nowhere to be found"
mircea_popescu: summary tho pls.
locksmith: just read the article as well, I can translate it for anyone interested
mircea_popescu: locksmith http://trilema.com/2014/cunt-size-discussion-this-is-guaranteed-to-be-weird/ << read her that for a bedtime story.
mircea_popescu: lol good one tat.
ThickAsThieves: it's the leftove rinch
ThickAsThieves: welcome to the internet, gf
nubbins`: better stop clicking links then
mircea_popescu: so lemme push everyone's favourite button then.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation epic quote, i shall use it!
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu: makes nubbins` that's : being, obvious answer sausages" "because the what
mircea_popescu: the obvious answer being, "because that's what nubbins` makes : sausages"
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` do you have a @twitter or too hipster for THAT too, in adition to atc ?
the20year2: Just april the 1st
mircea_popescu: i thought they just bought the month of april.
nubbins`: TBH "bitcoin is here to cum" might be my favourite
nubbins`: tat this is related to http://imgur.com/Ydmf7Xl
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no, more like "if you throw this the op feels like an idiot"
mircea_popescu: sooo.... someone just sent a 2btc donation to mah trilema credits address ?
antephialtic: and as a form of social engineering to make the capital markets more stable
ThickAsThieves: i doubt thats the reason on record
antephialtic: because old people who vote tend to buy and hold over the long term. but uncle sam wants some of those sweet profits from the prop traders on wall street
nubbins`: you are [an idiot/wasting my time/first against the wall when i am king]
ThickAsThieves: wow i thought youd have the usual make-me-feel-like-an-idiot answer
antephialtic: as you said, its to incentivize long term investment over short term speculation
mircea_popescu: ie, some nonsense both sides were too tired and too tied down other places to argue
mircea_popescu: my own guess would be that it's one of those quirks that end up in legislation of dual party systems
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you really must ask a tax accountant that.
ThickAsThieves: i assume it's to promote longer terms of invetsment, but is that to benefit the dollar itself, or to promote longer-term invetsments in the economy of the country?
VanCleef: i think its obamas fault
ThickAsThieves: question, why are US capital gains tax tiers gated by the one-year term? and is it appropriate to apply such to bitcoin under those reasons.
moiety: ThickAsThieves: i thought as much because of the emails and the fact all the amounts were so stupidly high
jurov: the illustrations with the birds...
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cazalla: "Bitcoiners prefer finance and kindles to sex"
cazalla: VanCleef: I googled that - chinese bitcoiners executed, first result is a laugh
ThickAsThieves: no, but they are happy
VanCleef: well 10 chinese bitcoiners did get executed today by the chinese gov, i don't think they're laughing
ThickAsThieves: it's like Troll Appreciation Day
ThickAsThieves: the point of April Fools is for the target to think it's real
ThickAsThieves: they were so scared people would think it was real they put hack in the subject of the email
VanCleef: so it is a joke tat?
antephialtic: just wanted to see if the hack was real
antephialtic: (obviously I wasn't going to buy the dump)
antephialtic: here's a short convo I had with the hacker
mircea_popescu: there's a reason we don't trust the bitcoin scam foundation bunch.
cazalla: maybe someone is just taking advantage of the leaked emails to spread more bullshit
mircea_popescu: no i mean, the answer to your q is in teh log.
VanCleef: thats pretty messed up if true
thestringpuller: guess I'm bitcoins on the street for now on
cazalla: "Coinbase provides your full transaction history to the FBI, FinCEN and IRS every day. They are under a gag order."
cazalla: any truth to this? http://pastebin.com/RzWipJFb
jurov: i received exactly the text i pasted (minus the trailing LOLOLOL)
moiety: http://i.imgur.com/NCBsGMt.png?1 thats the coinbase snip i was shown
moiety: tweeter? i havent been today yet
mircea_popescu: twitter's been going pretty nuts over my repaste there.
moiety: i dont use coinbase lol someone showed me what they got
moiety: and the emails
moiety: i thought it was an april fools thing because of the ridiculously high numbers
ColdHardMetal: I got one of those from: fuckingspammer@mailinator.com at least they're forthright about it.
mircea_popescu: it is a scam, obviously. it's not without coinbase's involvement tho, which is what i mean. htey're using the same infrastructure a legit merchant would be using.
jurov: Click here to sign in and complete this payment LOLOLOLOL
jurov: ⚠ URGENT: Сoinbase hacked. We just sent you a request to pay 999999.99999999 BTC (worth €354,414,446.99 EUR) using Coinbase.
mircea_popescu: the strange things we hope for.
mircea_popescu: ColdHardMetal always a risky proposition, bitcoin divestment for fiat. who knows, maybe in a decade i live to regret it :p
mircea_popescu: hum the forum's down
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i marvel that she lasted this long - my dosimeter turns full black from just reading that phorum for a few min.
pLambert: Isn't that how you get rich, byy acting like scrooge? ;)
mircea_popescu: what am i going to do, run mr scrooge's offices over here ?
pLambert: does she still get paid even though she got banned?
mircea_popescu: antephialtic no, it's much more like the judge allowing the two unkempt youths fuck his teenaged daughter in exchange of not having his car all scratched up.
asciilifeform: i thought she just moved to new forum?
chetty: Kerry want to claim he made mideast peace
antephialtic: this is analogous to the judge allowing Charlie Shrem to bang his daughter in exchange for him accepting a plea bargain
mircea_popescu: antephialtic gotta pay to play.