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benkay: still gotta bleed out all of
the enthusiasm of 2012
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pankkake: you could provide a .gitconfig wich prevents
those by default
bounce: git patch output over email
to
the mentor
benkay: i
think i'm just going
to say: 'see
this? stop it.'
benkay: don't pollute
test or master with your damn merge commits
bounce: ayup. but if you don't... you have more fires
to put out.
those aren't free either.
benkay: bounce: if you go
that route you gotta set aside
the
time for mentorship and
training as well.
bounce: well,
that's very limiting. what you need
to do is very picky who you pick for what
task. including picking promising newbies and give
them leeway
to earn (or lose)
trust.
bounce: that might work. it might also end in
tears.
pankkake: no recruiting outside
the web of
trust basically
pankkake: what I've seen is: people who know each other for years, start a company, struggle a lot but at least
they enjoy it
bounce: no,
that's not
the only solution. far from it. but understanding
that with good management you achieve more is a prerequisite.
benkay: bounce:
the only solution is
to be
the competent management you wish
to see in
the world :)
☟︎ pankkake: bounce: I know a few companies like
that
bounce waits for a couple of /good/ devs and assorted other
techies
to
team up and find
themselves /competent/ management
to lord it over
them.
that'll be
the day.
pankkake: reasoning: "we need
to have
the contract, it will bring more business later"
pankkake: I was fed up with having
to fill overpromises I didn't make
pankkake: the issue is
that you don't have
to overpromise first
pankkake: doing less, but shipping on
time, have less bugs etc. = happy client
bounce: at
the very least
they'll be picky about whom
they outsource
to
pankkake: my
theory is
that smart clients don't outsource anyways
bounce: er.
this is
the usual "never
time
to do it right
the first
time, always
time
to do it again later, at higher cost" argument. yet somehow
there's always room for people with clue. funny how
that works.
VanCleef: to pay for
the serivce or set it up?
pankkake: VanCleef: I don't
think many have
the funds for it
pankkake: still
they might have
to rebase one day
benkay: easier
to crack
the whip on new devs
than get client
to pay for vcs maintenance
benkay: client ain't gonna pay for
that
pankkake: anyway, with git you can rewrite commits etc., so perhaps you could have some sort of staging branch for
those who don't understand git
pankkake: benkay: yeah, he knew how
to. which is why I loved working with him:
the CSS he was writing made sense. I almost never had
to
touch it, because it was
thought for what was going
to be written
VanCleef: do you
think
the idea could work?
benkay: pankkake: sounds dangerously close
to actually learning how
to program :D :D :D
pankkake: VanCleef: never happened and isn't open
to business now
benkay: ;;later
tell blackwhite remind me
to ask you about pricing models some day
VanCleef: id love
to setup a call centre in india doing
that
pankkake: I worked with a css guy
that mastered version control, it's great but indeed rare
VanCleef: i actually like pankkake idea getting paid
to
troll
benkay: (open
to argument on
that one. i don't know anything anyways.)
benkay: nor, probably, should
they.
benkay: so here's
the problem: people working on css do not understand or care about complexities of version control
pankkake: but it gets for every little fix - actually little fixes are extremely insuited
to pull requests
benkay: it's
the dev fucking with
the
test branch generating oodles of 'merging XXX of remote into XXX'
benkay: eh i'm not so hateful about
that. it's nice
to have a point at which
the
test branch was merged into master
to point at.
pankkake: you can merge pull requests from
the web interface
benkay: pankkake: what does github have
to do with merge commits?
benkay: i have a contractor whose hand needs
to either be slapped or held, can't decide yet.
pankkake: also one of
the reasons I hate github
benkay: hey does anyone have a concise "merge commits suck and you suck for producing
them" on
tap?
nubbins`: what's
the buttload-to-btc rate
these days?
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nubbins`: you'd probably get a better price from a local company, since
they wouldn't have
to ship
the product
to you
VanCleef: i have a friend starting his clothing label looking
to me
to outsource it for him
nubbins`: varies based on quantity and number of colors. generally
there's a flat setup fee of $40, plus $15 for each extra color after
the first
thestringpuller: like what's
the upfront per screen fee, and cost per shirt?
thestringpuller: and
that might bubble if
too many people start dumping money in it
VanCleef: maybe i should start investing in
the stock market
nubbins`: ...you can't wait for your girlfriend
to lose
twenty
thousand dollars... so you can laugh at her?
Namworld: I doubt you can fullfill buying my debt in any meaningful fashion
tho.
drkow: my girlfriend had 20k burning a hole in her pocket and invested it at some bank last week, I can't wait for her
to lose it so I can laugh
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VanCleef: maybe i should sponser a hackathon
thingy
Apocalyptic: more seriously
though, if you have
to ask what
to invest in, it's probably better not
to invest at all
nubbins`: there's 5.5btc up for grabs on
the s.mg VWAP bet, and
that's closing around
the
time chetty said
the next release is coming out
Namworld: Well you could
take over my BTC debt. It's BTC denominated.
nubbins`: he paid off his student loans in
three months WASHING DISHES on a supply boat.
VanCleef: but yeh just looking for bitcoin related security
to invest in
nubbins`: Namworld: underwater welding is where it's at
these days
nubbins`: shit, substitute
teachers make $35-40/hr
VanCleef: i
think sfi will be
the next scam
to fall
Namworld: welders, not
that high, but electrician/plumber for sure.
Namworld: Like better
than
tech sector/accountant/lawyers/doctors often.
nubbins`: one of
those words didn't belong in
that sentence
nubbins`: not sure about where you live, but
there's a nation-wide shortage of skilled
tradespeople in canada
Namworld: Bail out my lenders,
take over my debt.
nubbins`: you know all
those idiots driving around in F350 pickups?
they did it
mike_c: throw a dart at
the mpex security list and invest.
nubbins`: VanCleef: well, y'know, get a list of
trades
that are in demand and pick one
VanCleef: no money in porn when its free on
the internet
Namworld: Fuck, I'm even wearing rags, come
to
think of it.