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ThickAsThieves: then tons of cop lights for a half-mile
ThickAsThieves: last night, driving home, i see these large flashy signs saying "NARCOTICS CHECKPOINT"
mircea_popescu: so the future is still largely unknown.
mircea_popescu: antephialtic and i agree with you[r unstated point] that they're too young yet to have shown they suck,
antephialtic: (to the point where protocol additions/modifications can be implemented there first)
antephialtic: but I do agree with you that conformal giving them some competition is a boon. I hope btcd becomes a fully viable alternative
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "what the fuck are you doing here ?" "washing your wife, what does it look like!" "get out! " "hey, you owe me fifty bucks"
asciilifeform: 'i washed yer car, pony up' - 'i might throw you a penny, but you should've used water, not piss'
ThickAsThieves: thats not to say that i think meaning isnt possible
mircea_popescu: actually that's exactly it. vagrants with dirty rags at ny stop lights.
ThickAsThieves: i concur, i feel like they trailblazing in the dark toward a cliff
asciilifeform: the core devs remind me of vagrants who pour water on cars at stoplights and then demand money for the 'wash.'
mircea_popescu: they'll be a major liability this time next year, at the rate they're going.
mircea_popescu: overall, they're a slight liability so far, and the trend is negative
BingoBoingo: I dunno that easy ECDSA multisig is a feature and not a "feature"
mircea_popescu: indeed, i fully disagree with that point.
antephialtic: well, my overall point (which you disagree with me on) is that the core devs provide value to all bitcoin users.
mircea_popescu: antephialtic you're sliding the conversation all over the place.
asciilifeform: i remember this. and thought that other people did, too.
antephialtic: I disagree, P2SH is actually a big improvement in security by making multisig not a huge bitch to use
mircea_popescu: the rest of them enabled it.
mircea_popescu: <antephialtic> asciilifeform: chain fork that happened << it didn't "happen". mike hearn manufactured it.
truffles: nice that everything is on 3 things though
mircea_popescu: this is the definition of not useful.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, if they went home today, or if they went home in 2013, it'd have made no difference
antephialtic: asciilifeform: chain fork that happened
mircea_popescu: antephialtic in point of fact nobody sane uses their releases, most bitcoin is on .6 at the latest
BingoBoingo: truffles: The topic is and has always been everything. It is unchanging
mircea_popescu: that's a case by case basis. in their case, it does not.
VanCleef: its good that bitcoin is centralised to a few core devs
gribble: Oh! There is some lovely filth down here - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZD89CEO1Vk>; Monty Python Holy Grail : Autonomous Collective - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE>; Monty Python and the Holy Grail: <http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/mphg/mphg.htm>
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: I respect you. But I don't see you committing patches and fixing bugs. It's dirty work, but somebody has to do it.
mircea_popescu: that's not how tech works.
mircea_popescu: i know, the circlejerk that is the pretend-core likes to convice themselves they're needed because they're stupid.
BingoBoingo: truffles: There's always only been one topic here
ThickAsThieves: reddit doesnt seem to notice that every China-is-doomgloom post is by the same guy
mircea_popescu: you really don't want to go into utility. so far the pretend-core devs are a liability overall.
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: as a grotesque consequence of the sad state of the bitcoin-core codebase, bitcoin-core is unreplaceable
truffles: i like how theyre like 3 topics ongoing heh
mircea_popescu: yeah, when they're not hardforking the chain
antephialtic: look at the commit log, they fix chain-splitting bugs constantly
BingoBoingo: Actual miners are the least knowable thing in BTC
mircea_popescu: let me underscore that the core devs of bitcoin are at conformal not at the scam foundation.
ThickAsThieves: not trying to start a revolution
mircea_popescu: so what of it ? conformal pays its devs the salary to work on bitcoin-core full time.
BingoBoingo: antephialtic: You know TradeFortress was a hugbox node.js fan
VanCleef: i dont trust him either
truffles: TAT i think it will achieve what u want better imo :)
antephialtic: for him to work on bitcoin-core fulltime
antephialtic: Not the node.js stuff, that is a gimmick to get more shitty stack-overflow copy/pasting devs building crappy webapps
VanCleef: its just my humble opinion, i dont trust bitpay
BingoBoingo: I dunno how I feel about Bitpay promoting some node.js BBQ stuff they's been pimping
asciilifeform: why does the protocol need 'investment' ?
truffles: TAT why dont u start another channel with the debate stuff?
VanCleef: bitpay is the paypal of bitcoin reality
antephialtic: VanCleef: BitPay is doing some good stuff. They are the only company that actually invests in the protocol itself
mircea_popescu: for as long as he can put up with the imbeciles, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: he's the only brain left in the bitcoin scamfoundation troop.
ThickAsThieves: i've met him, he's hard to read
ThickAsThieves: The found and CEO of BitPay, Tony Gallippi, commented: “The launch of our new brand and logo aligns with our open-source culture."
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: w.r.t. to owning the hashpower, it is clear that the most effective way to launder the proceeds of some crime through bitcoin is to purchase mining hardware with the dirty cash
mircea_popescu: she on the right matters. they on the left don't even exist.
mircea_popescu: however, they are perfectly useless, and will not matter.
truffles: link me (will put on my to do list)
mircea_popescu: sure. and more numerous to boot.
mircea_popescu: aren't the girls on the left just as hot as the one on the right ?
ThickAsThieves: so much as post the schedule
asciilifeform: truffles: it was a minor subplot. they find these critters on jupiter, living in the gas, and decide to study them. by building a machine which transforms people into them, so they can see what their life is like. and then, for years, no one returns to be converted back. eventually one fellow comes back. and tells how much more fun it is than being human. end result: mankind vanishes, converted to lopers. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they wanna participate they'd better find it.
mircea_popescu: fuck the outsiders.
mircea_popescu: nah see, that's just moving the choir mentality down the road.
ThickAsThieves: kinda invite outsiders to watch and see the channel flex
mircea_popescu: it'd certainly relieve me of the need to be always here whenever you schmucks manage to get an idea or something :D
ThickAsThieves: thinking out loud, so sorry if this sucks, but i was also wondering whether having scheduled debate/topic events in channel would be cool
VanCleef: i have feelings for u too
truffles: is there a movie?
mircea_popescu: the point was never to agree. the point was to disagree well. ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: well, to be candid, and i love you guys, but right now our blog army is mostly preachers to the same choir
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if memory serves, the lessons learned were more about vetrov
ThickAsThieves: bingo that's even better
asciilifeform: truffles: the cheap flick with the time machine mafia?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the point of blogging is to explore exactly that.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: But different things make us uncomfortable unequally
truffles: TAT i doubt that
ThickAsThieves: i'd like to see a blog that consistently tackled the topics that make people like us most uncomfortable
asciilifeform: did this teach anything? of course not.
gribble: Siberian pipeline sabotage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_pipeline_sabotage>; Urengoy–Pomary–Uzhgorod pipeline ( 1983 ) - Wikipedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urengoy%E2%80%93Pomary%E2%80%93Uzhgorod_pipeline>; Update: Agent Farewell and the Siberian Pipeline Explosion ...: <http://nsarchive.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/agent- (1 more message)
truffles: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1276104/ so u havent seen this movie?
asciilifeform: check out the latest 'Elbrus', for instance. x86, runs... xp.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun think that was such a bad call myself.
asciilifeform: it remains to be seen whether it will recover from this mistake.
asciilifeform: re: GLONASS: russia fucked the goat when it decided, in late '70s, to copy american CPUs so that warez can be used instead of investing in software dev.
ThickAsThieves: maybe the centralization is bitcoin itself
mircea_popescu: that's the cycle.
mircea_popescu: and then eventually dies.
mircea_popescu: so the channel spends a while as a dump of copy/pasted material
mircea_popescu: is to all pretend we're mp
chetty: well perhaps none of us will live long enough to see the next centralization ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the idiots left to replace you will decide well... the only way to maintain the glory of -assets that was
mircea_popescu: suppose you all get extradited to the us to stand trial as witnesses in civil proceedings against unrelated third parties, and are liek waterboarded for lyf. as the forum says will happen.