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bounce: it takes real guts to just let be in such a situation
bounce: "hold on to what you got"-reflex?
asciilifeform: speaking of dekulakization: has anyone considered the 'partizans' hypothesis re: the dead JPM folks?
mircea_popescu: i dunno who the fuck could bear to live there, that way.
mircea_popescu: first off who the fuck is threatened by smart young people ?! and second off... jesus fuck i've seen their lives and their dens, they're boring and dismal.
mircea_popescu: and this actually comes to the core of the ideological opposition here. i simply do not like this "no middle" burned ground crap.
dexX7: hm let me test it
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-04-2014#604120 << dexX7 but i never got the same address from brainwallet as was actually used ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so that'd be that.
asciilifeform: can't see how anyone who ever so much as set foot in the u.s. could disagree here.
mircea_popescu: sure, a tree with no middle one day collapses. but until such a day...
mircea_popescu: it's a middle pruning control strategy, the exact equiv of raising taxes "for social good"
mircea_popescu: it hurts the average who could in principle one day hurt the rich.
mircea_popescu: it doth not hurt the rich
mircea_popescu: now, dekulakization is EXACTLY the same.
mircea_popescu: other than "stansislav won't be the next buffett"
mircea_popescu: buffett merely aims to keep it this way : high taxes means jack shit to him
mircea_popescu: i can accumulate. the average middle class guy in the chumpatron, can not.
mircea_popescu: see, the fact that i made the fu berkshire bet and the fact i pay about 2.85% a year on average are related.
mircea_popescu: however, there exists a center of people who can't afford good tax shelters, and who could, if left undisturbed, come to one day challenge him.
asciilifeform: game theoretically 'dishonest signal'
mircea_popescu: buffett structures the hell out of his deals to avoid taxation.
asciilifeform: technical term, i believe, is 'conspicuous benevolence'
mircea_popescu: you familiar with buffett pretending taxes "at the top" aren't high enough, and with gates donating his fortune to "good causes" and so on ?
mircea_popescu: let me explain something about this dekulakization concept.
asciilifeform: of course, there's a flip side to playing this game. eventually mr. dirt invents dekulakization.
mircea_popescu: people like me refer to a very specific thing.
mircea_popescu: now, when people such as me say the us agencies will have to learn to play ball or not exist,
mircea_popescu: his asshole was the point going in.
asciilifeform: this is, arguably, the oldest form of credit?
mircea_popescu: i did it myself, and quite publicly at that. remember the patrick harnett case ?
mircea_popescu: there's a very good fundamental reason to extend credit you know will never be repaid.
mircea_popescu: the difference between these two is, obviously... your painting.
mircea_popescu: while your ability to pay is finite, you being finite, your ability to underwrite credit is not finite.
mircea_popescu: so : the bezzle fundamentally is born out of and exists for the following reason :
mircea_popescu: you remember my story with the jewish money lender taking a painting and other payment in kind for debt ?
mircea_popescu: but if not, there's always credit.
asciilifeform: where is the fool supposed to unearth the difference
mircea_popescu: which is the deep reason for the http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a kind of phase transition ahead, when it begins to cost more to 'work for google' than... it pays
mircea_popescu: much in the manner hearn is using his "i was at google" thing.
mircea_popescu: they can then use those on the stripper and prostitution circuits as extras "cause we're pornstars"
mircea_popescu: for the same reason most girls with great fuck videos PAY to participate.
mircea_popescu: soon it's going to cost you money to be "working for google"
mircea_popescu: the same shall soon apply to tech, we're witnessing a "professorisation" and "tenurisation" of tech.
mircea_popescu: sure. to take things from yet another angle : you're familiar with greenspun's analysis of why women don't go into science.
asciilifeform: as in 19th c. 'company town'
asciilifeform: much of what the chumpers 'buying' houses in usa are paying for could be had for considerably smaller cost - e.g. physical security, caste isolation, etc.
mircea_popescu: it's getting there, and soon sv will be in fact chinese dormitory style.
mircea_popescu: so anyway : only recently has tech become respectable, and as such it couldn't historically afford the huge bezzle-usd load of owning real estate outright.
mircea_popescu: what else in this world is there for her to salivate for ?
asciilifeform: as if the money is actually their own, and not simply put in their hands for a few minutes to salivate over.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why ? the 16 yo should salivate after the cock.
mircea_popescu: buffett still does not invest in them because, politely, "he doesn't understand them", but factually "not in his wot"
asciilifeform: the most frustrating part is the folly of the engineers, who salivate after the '$300k sv job'
mircea_popescu: yoiu have to consider the history : only very recently have tech companies become "Respectable"
mircea_popescu: well that's where they're headed.
asciilifeform: they might perhaps be better off 'vertically integrating' the housing bit
asciilifeform: because they, for some odd reason, demand a ridiculous geographic concentration of engineers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they way i understood it, the sv folks aren't actually paying engineers in particular. they're paying the real estate industry to (inefficiently) house them.
mircea_popescu: it does however stress the distribution of turkeys, if nothing else then because new price tags keep having to be printed.
mircea_popescu: increasing the engineer's pay does not increase the number of turkeys.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok. considering the what/how debate as accepted foundation : at any time there's a number of turkeys and a number of engineers. ☟︎☟︎
truffles: this is one pleasing to the eye resume for sure
mircea_popescu: if by that year you're not fucking thankful you started, you may negrate me in all fairness.
mircea_popescu: punkman srsly, make a blog, write up one of these a day, each day, for a year.
truffles: confined to the home already mp
mircea_popescu: i'm just here waiting for people to type, not busy in any sense not able to go anywhere, life of dreamz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you've the time, would be interesting to hear more re: the fate of the engineers.
mircea_popescu: punkman incidentally, why not make yourself a career out of this ?
truffles: punkman but where'd he go to skool!
mircea_popescu: still... i wouldn't trust the guy just on the grounds he exists.
mircea_popescu: hard to call, really, because the minerals exploration business (as discussed previously here) is kinda builty to work like this and there do exist occasional legitimate corps that get the brush treatment anyway
punkman: they got like 5 of those
mircea_popescu: QUOTE: "This is why the term "fictitious profits", definitely applies.
punkman: yeah mining that gold
punkman: also I think this is topace, http://weirdly.net/resume.php amirite topace?
mircea_popescu: punkman you're the most gifted person i know.
punkman: how about these dudes, http://www.greenbankcapitalinc.com/
punkman: mircea_popescu: i have these episodes every couple of days, I see URLs in my epileptic visions
truffles: gotta let them wet their beaks
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety localbitcoins had some technology-enthusiastic policemen pull some "sting operations", which were kinda lulzy in their braindead stupidity but probably spelled out actual financial and emotional pain for the unfortunate parties to get involved in the bureaucracy's quest to justify its continued existence. i imagine it's gone as a result.
chetty: I want to know why someone would want to 'win points with us regulators', but I won't dirty my hands actually posting on that
truffles: the US "gave" the internet to the world so will it be as easy to seize domains?
mircea_popescu: punkman are you like on a special list or something ? where do you find all this stuff ?
mircea_popescu: jurov lol seriously, random guy out of nowhere "has made teh policez" ? how very meek of him :D
mircea_popescu: chetty the irony here is that whether he is actually physically distinct from the next derp or not makes little difference. stupidity is quite fungible.
mircea_popescu: when forumanon says of mp what obama&co say of putin, we know we're living in the best of possible worlds.
chetty: is that forum page a guy talking to himself? sure sounds like it
mircea_popescu: i guess they in the end deserve each other.
mircea_popescu: but the leaders of the sheeple bleating this nonsense on the forum said the same thing about the man that spanked them.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves thestringpuller http://ghettohikes.tumblr.com/
truffles: internet, i know its the best thing ever
mircea_popescu: truffles it's good you have the internet, because you can thus acquire even more parts you don't understand to build even larger the pile of dysfunctional junk that is your brain.
mircea_popescu: it's a bizarre collection, that forum.
mircea_popescu: everclear what's that ?
mircea_popescu: reading teh logs here.
mircea_popescu: now i can finally get to the best part of my day,
mircea_popescu: fixt ty.
truffles: so if u start with that 1 heh