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BingoBoingo: Or apparently if you sell USB drives in their shells
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no fucking way, that's if you sell coca cola.
mircea_popescu: "local standards" lmao. local physics, too, why not. "sir, do you know how fast you were going ?" "52mph" "nope, 7615!" "what ?! look my dear man, it says so right here" "ah, that may be how your car sees it... but here... WE HAVE LOCAL STANDARDS"
BingoBoingo: And... they specify "artículos eléctricos y artículos electrónicos"; Looks like I am getting a new piece of paper to hang on the wall.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, reading more on DINAMA and Aduanas. At this moment it seems registering as an importer of packaged products and coming up with a waste management plan might do the trick: En el alcance del decreto 260/007 se establece que toda empresa importadora o propietaria de marca que pone en el mercado productos envasados, deben encontrarse inscriptos en el registro que llevala DINAMA y contar o adherir a un plan de gestión de residuos
BingoBoingo: But hamplanet judge wrote it off as "local standards" and who was I to take it to apellate court when Uruguay was calling
BingoBoingo: Or used them according to the manufacterer's instructions
BingoBoingo: The principal in the traffic case was Pocahontas, Illinois (and the rest of Bond County) can be arsed to get the radars they buy used calibrated.
mircea_popescu: well, also a matter of principles involved. "these schmucks stole my shit, what matters it was only $300" sounds a lot better than "i am so fucking cheap, ima try and beg mom to let me off hook for $75 in damages".
BingoBoingo: But yes this is a civil law system here, and I don't see why anyone who went to a facultad de derecho ought to have any chance if I do case prep.
BingoBoingo: My past civil experiences could have had that effect. The traffic court case over a 75 USD speeding ticket prolly not.
mircea_popescu used to do this in his teens, to very moistening effect indeed.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, in the reading of the now it looks like it could be a small wank where I may have to register the business of myself as an importer of products packaged in non-reusable packaging
mircea_popescu: good for spanish in any case, and to impress the peruanas.
BingoBoingo: I'll look for a copy of the code at the Feria Sunday
mircea_popescu: moreover, uruguay is if memory serves civil rather than common law. even easier to do.
mircea_popescu: alrighty then.
BingoBoingo: Civil went better than criminal did
BingoBoingo: There's a group that regularly smoke circles in front of the datacenter tower, will get on it.
BingoBoingo: Will talk to them when they smoke circle outside the towers.
mircea_popescu: it never yet happened that "my decision to not talk to this stranger paid off". seems counterintuitive, is nevertheless the case.
mircea_popescu: talk to people ; statistically it's always better to than not to.
mircea_popescu: well, so talk to them
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: China wants to eat beef
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prev 3 datapoints suggested 'can mail with 30% bakshish' ; but apparently yes, will have to return to orig hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: http://cascadianhacker.com/least-effort-signups-in-django/comment-page-6#comment-755 << there's also something straqnge going on there.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo you ever talked to the chinos ? i mean specifically the supermarket folks. they routinely blocade run, might be able to get you some shit ? << I'm trying to find restaurant Chinese here. The only Chinese Chinese I reliably come across are new chinese wearing suits and renting WTC to buy cows.
mircea_popescu: you've paid a lot of money to figure out "no items new in box", why not use it.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 21:12 mircea_popescu: the method you're currently using is and always was regarded as braindamaged at best.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854493 is right there in black and white : "Based on my experiences with customs both times, anyone taking hardware to Spaceship Montevideo must conceal as much of it in servers as possible, and unbag that which cannot be plugged in, as items that are "new in box" trigger the customs officials no end." ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes selectable text, when
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 21:18 asciilifeform: 'customs agent' last time it was seen to, was cost-~equivalent to asciilifeform's magic trunk.
mircea_popescu: I reached out to this new contact, one Martin << whatever happened to this fellow btw ? story as recorded by ben_vulpes seems altogether inconsistent with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854501 ? did i miss some developments ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: anyway i have no opposition to an experimental test
mircea_popescu: it's not been my experience anywhere ; including the us.
asciilifeform: i'd normally expect would be dismissed with prejudice, under 'article 12345: we do whatever the fuck we want and suck it' but this is possibly biased by life in usa
mircea_popescu: (first phase of this will consist of local retards very intently repeating what BingoBoingo "has to understand" that "things is" and BingoBoingo laughintg his ass off)
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it's expensive, no. besides, very likely will be arbitrated rather than adjudicated
mircea_popescu: if nothing else, will introduce him to the courts ; and open a whole new lolz front.
asciilifeform: what's it even cost to file, in orcistan, cost of a whiskey?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unless i'm thick, this needs a specialist who's actually trustworthy, neh
asciilifeform: this was my impression as of this morning. and was also my impression that BingoBoingo went and danced the asked-for dance with the orcs, and thereafter eggog is to vanish. but turns out -- not.
mircea_popescu: file papers for conversion/theft against the agency and one individual involved (pick whoever you least liked) personally and there you go.
mircea_popescu: which, whatever, if they don't yield fucking sue them
mircea_popescu: i understood the complaint as "apparently someone somewhere is under the impression BingoBoingo can't get 3490874389 crates shipped because there's a law about local morons being limited to 2"
asciilifeform: all i got is that ??? email.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the exact point of eggog is unclear to me, this is why i asked BingoBoingo to dig.
mircea_popescu: maybe i misread, but that wasn't the problem ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik erry uppity peonistan regards errything mailed there as customsable
asciilifeform: phf: lol was my 1st thought
mircea_popescu: "i get it, you have a law about your peons not being allowed to buy shit. good. so ?"
mircea_popescu: what's that to do with anything ?
phf: dinamo is a machine for extracting bablos from lohs, asciilifeform should know that. dinama must be a south american variant
asciilifeform: afaik uy dun have an extraterritoriality thing with usa. ( and if it did, would we even be working with it )
mircea_popescu: anyway, the one point here that's not clear to me at all is why would anyone expect uruguayan law applies to us ? BingoBoingo is not a national, what fucking "dinama" ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you ever talked to the chinos ? i mean specifically the supermarket folks. they routinely blocade run, might be able to get you some shit ?
asciilifeform: if this were a 'of 4 rockets, 1 falls into the sea' asciilifeform would not blink even.
mircea_popescu: well in any case, 1.3 surcharge * 1.4 risk of loss means almost 200% the price.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's actually the part that set my blood pressure
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform would it be fair to say the discount for risk-of-loss through this process is about 40% ? ie, 2 in 5 shipments are lost to it ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and incidentally, dunforget , yer the chair nao ! so if you have smarter idea, plox to say asap.
asciilifeform: ( unless mod6 or ben_vulpes wants to be next. )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do what remains to do to put a proper cross on the grave, and after that i'ma start taking cargo manifest calls.
asciilifeform: sorta why i posted a $5 cable the 1st time.
mircea_popescu: so then why getting excited.
mircea_popescu: whatever you pick of that 5ish items list, the "let's see what happens if you amazon it over" was never more than that -- novelty lulz item.
asciilifeform: 'customs agent' last time it was seen to, was cost-~equivalent to asciilifeform's magic trunk. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm satisfied that BingoBoingo sniffed erry possible local arse for local source.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, source it locally ; or get a company off the ground already, get it a customs agent and process the crates there.
asciilifeform: the old newspapers is worth a shot. and if this fails, it'll have to run like antarctic station, i.e. supply rocket quarterly-semiquarterly, and priced in.
mircea_popescu: amazon whatever the fuck to your house, and either ferry it over in luggage or else mail it over in old newspapers. what you're trying to do is the mail equivalent of http://cascadianhacker.com/classically-inept-couriering
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can you think of less braindamaged ? ( say i had budgeted 9000 spares for april expedition. then we'd be sitting on 8994 lemon drives. )
asciilifeform: ( picture, tariff on packets )
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 21:03 asciilifeform: i mean, wtf, enviro ?! what, this model of usb stick is banned in uy because does not include enuff % cow shit by mass ??
asciilifeform: lol, they would if they could
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 1s delay seems to result at least on UK->UY direction on preserving even order at destination, at least at this hour; at any rate, I'll look at it tomorrow and unless I can spot some trouble, it should then be chugging along
asciilifeform: mod6: lulazon collected a ~30% bakshish prepay on all 4 crates to date; 3 made it, 4th -- somehow not
mod6: diana_coman has a point, aren't we supposed to grease the wheels in such a palce?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think we have something like your earlier bank wire thing, going
diana_coman: my point above was that "derping for week+" + obscure "fault you have to fix" sounds precisely like "I keep asking for a bribe and I did not get any!!"
asciilifeform: 'tis a crying shame that mircea_popescu doesn't live in uy... i suspect there's a cunt somewhere who needs flaying.
asciilifeform: rrright, somebody bothered to open & sniff'em
asciilifeform: whereas the other, included ??
BingoBoingo: And going has to be tomorrow because offices are closing for the day at this hour
asciilifeform: i mean, wtf, enviro ?! what, this model of usb stick is banned in uy because does not include enuff % cow shit by mass ?? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, wtf the office is and why they might complain.
BingoBoingo: Well, I'll have to read an go to the physical places tomorrow.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: find out, what the everliving fuck.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc there was some physical place, to which you went ? perhaps time to go there once more.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, tsk, that's a fee!
diana_coman: to me it sounds very much like the usual bakshish/peshkesh request, lol
BingoBoingo: DINAMA appears to be https://mvotma.gub.uy/dinama
asciilifeform: and this after derping for week+
asciilifeform: full text : 'Estimado: Me informa el despachante que se encuentra inhabilitado para importar por DINAMA. Agradezco una vez regularice la situación nos informe para procesar el permiso. Saludos cordiales.'
asciilifeform: how the fuck would i know !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm beginning to suspect enemy action (i.e. some 'well-wisher' made a call to 'the right organs' in orcistan, or somesuch )
asciilifeform: cuz this is screamingly retarded.
asciilifeform: if we can't even get motherfucking crate of 300 $ disk mailed, will have to organize an expedition ahead of schedule.
asciilifeform: err, lemme try that again,
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to check that emailbox asap