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robwhiz22: BingoBoingo, I didn't critique it. I don't know anything about any RNG project. I was just answering mircea_popescu's question, in which he quoted "and conversely objects which pass randomness
tests must have high algorithmic complexity" and hten said "not familiar with
the 'complex objects' in question.".
BingoBoingo: robwhiz22: If you dunno
they application how can you be competent
to critique it?
robwhiz22: And more
to
the point I don't really know
the application. It's, quote-unquote "out of scope"
robwhiz22: but I didn't submit as I didn't want
to become your consultant on here for free. :)
BingoBoingo: robwhiz22: If you
thing your solicitation reveals flaws, public disclosure is
the responsible
thing
to do
mircea_popescu: the guy does declare he's
trained as a phys, so i guess rank cluelessness about math may be excused
mircea_popescu: "Martin-Löf showed, again roughly speaking,
that complex objects will pass many high-reliability
tests for randomness, and conversely objects which pass randomness
tests must have high algorithmic complexity."
robwhiz22: fluffypony, more importantly, it's not like I did
the entire project on spec (Google 'on spec' or 'spec work').
bounce: pretty cool he found it out himself, even if it
turned out later he wasn't
the first.
bounce: nothing said
the writer got beaten nor he didn't abandon
the notion he wasn't
the first when
told
fluffypony: robwhiz22: why don't you just put
the docs online for all
to see/download? Or PasteBin it? You've been given permission
to do so, after all.
jurov: bah, even
these who do
mircea_popescu: kids
that have no experience with beatings have no conceivable incentive
to abandon
the notion
they invented jordan normal form.
mircea_popescu: i want
this entered into
the record of proof for
the importance of beating schoolchildren.
mircea_popescu: "My
teacher, more patient
than I would be with adolescent arrogance, gently informed me
that it was a standard
technique, in any book on linear algebra, called "reduction
to Jordan normal form", after
the man who discovered it in
the 1800s. "
bounce: 9th paragraph, unkindly said, "applying
the new jersey approach
to
the universe"
mircea_popescu: must be cool
to run a search engine
that consists of promoting your friends.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile,
they return all
the wikipedia pages possible.
mircea_popescu: also, google does not return
the wayback machine for a "web history" query.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I've just clicked 'forward all' and reforwarded you my proposal and follow-up email. Please check
the mail and I would very much appreciate a response. I feel I've given adequate
time for your consideration.
bounce: re reinventing
the wheel, wasn't
there a medico recently
that got a paper published essentially reinventing calculus (and naming it after himself, naturally)?
robwhiz22: fluffypony, I doubt I am on ignore. He began
to answer me but had
to go.
The other day, I had
to leave earlier.
mircea_popescu: (joke beingthat
the militsya was an obsolete institution, and famously
the people it employed could not write)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romanian canonical equivalent is "tu crezi ca
te cauta militia pe messenger". ie, you
think
the militsya is pursuing you
through im.
fluffypony: robwhiz22: I
think you're on /ignore, he was
talking
to bounce
bounce: robwhiz22:
the best way for you
to stop running around in circles is stop running around in circles. drop
the
text in a pastebin and share. you have permission
to do
this already.
mircea_popescu: i do't
think american expressions are allowed
to contain words such as elusive
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu,
the whole proposal - I can email again if you have
trouble fining
the previous emails.
There 2 I
think, of which you answered
the second one inviting me here, and one follow-up one.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, did you 1) find my proposal among your emails now? 2) do you have an answer? I submitted it with
the request
that you review and answer within
three business days, which I
thought was reasonable.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I am not available for chatting much longer
tonight.
bounce: anyhow, I'll gladly concede
this since my interest is in a different point.
bounce: but
the cake is a lie.
mircea_popescu: the
top of a cake and
the
top of an oil
tank aren't similar on grounds of
topness.
bounce: both are at
the
top of
the societal pile, if in slightly different senses.
mircea_popescu: in general one can't be both. whenever aristocrats were forced
to be courtiers historically,
they lost
their aristocracy, and
the state collapsed
mircea_popescu: bounce i meant aristocrats and courtiers are
two mostly distinct
things.
mircea_popescu: the sort
that opposed
the french and
the germans, or
the germans and
the russians, or
the french and
the russians
mircea_popescu: lots of little kingdoms don't necessarily war each other, and moreover
the wars of little kingdoms are not at all like
the wars of national-socialist statal machines,
fluffypony: bounce: are we still
talking about murder rates?
bounce: not
true. any high concentration of power without proper management
tends
to bring lots of little kingdoms, warring each other. I'm
told
the pettiest squabbles can be found in academia.
fluffypony: which is gang warfare
territory in
the Cape Flats
fluffypony: but something ridiculous like 80% of
the murders occur in Lavender Hill
fluffypony: for eg. Cape
Town now has a higher murder rate
than Johannesburg
fluffypony: we're a small part of
the population (relatively), and a lot of
the murders are gang related
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm
talking specifically about South Africa - our murder rate is mentioned in
the article, ~30 per 100k vs Honduras at ~90 per 100k
bounce: compared
to
the conspiring, deceit, backstabbing, betrayal, "white" lieing, bald faced lieing, and all
that, happening among
the most cultured of any population,
traditionally
the aristocrats and like court dwellers,
that's outright friendly and
truthful.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah, I was quite surprised,
the ex-pats have beaten
the "murder rate in South Africa is
the highest in
the world" speech into everyone's heads we're starting
to believe it ourselves
bounce: the student club had a rule
that you couldn't actually lie. ie answers must be
truthful. but you could refuse
to answer on grounds of
the question being
too direct. add in some rules
that made buying
the entire bar population beers both very easy
to do and hard
to figure out for
the barman... well, it's a student club, whaddaya expect?
Apocalyptic: ^
that's
the meaning
that comes
to mind first
to me
ozbot: Americas overtake Africa as region with most murders | World news |
theguardian.com
bounce spots a developing
tvtropes addiction
ozbot: Anonymous derpage pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
TomServo: robwhiz22: You're
the "I can fix
the Cardano" guy right?
robwhiz22: If you need any more information, feel free
to ask.
robwhiz22: You kind of disappeared
the other day. I'm hoping you had a chance
to read what I'd written you earlier. If so could you
tell me a decision please?
fluffypony: I
think
testnet is an under-utilised feature
truff1es: says
the person who wants
to beat people
to submission
mircea_popescu: <truff1es> just wait
til
the sillyness washes away << funny how on
the spot
this guy is. since forever
the strategy of
the mentally defective has been, just wait until
the cool people get exhausted, and
try
to rebuild socialism
then!
truff1es: if u were
tough enough it wouldnt matter!
fluffypony: yeah I use
the "stove is hot" analogy often
mircea_popescu: such as, putting your hand in
the flame may in principle do all sorts of cool
things, like charge your phone battery
chetty: bitcoins don't get lost (mostly) just
transfered
mircea_popescu: fluffypony making mistakes should be encouraged in a narrow field :
that where we don't know what
the mistakes are. in
the fields where we already know,
they should not be.
chetty: fluffypony,
that is I
think,
the definition of learning
thestringpuller: no experimenting wiht production services, fucking get managers and shit. perhaps it's about
time for another
tally of
the BTC losses due
to scams and icompetence
fluffypony: although making mistakes *and learning from
them* should be encouraged, no?
thestringpuller: most people seem
to do
things wrong, get
told so, ignor as MP points out,
then
they run head first into concrete and complain about how
they have brain damage
chetty: thestringpuller, and
that hurts
too
thestringpuller: chetty if you start doing
things right and realize you were once wrong you are also learning
things :)
truff1es: just wait
til
the sillyness washes away
truff1es: goonsamchi u make good points, id like
to read more ur views on
this
chetty: the best ones are
the scariest!
mircea_popescu: and on
the basis of what
they know, aka 0,
they're right.
mircea_popescu: idiots on
the forum also
think
they know better.
the reason
they
think so is because
they don't know what
they don't know