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benkay: do
they
then have a copy of
the mpex keys as well? for
the signing of stats etc?
mircea_popescu: it's anonimized
to some degree, mostly by replacing keys, but
that shouldn't be relied on.
benkay: hey mircea_popescu i
think i'm misreading your mpex
tech stuff article - web servers have a copy of
the db
to fulfill stat requests?
fluffypony: reading some of
the stuff I contributed is painful
MGK: sorry Im doing a few
things
bounce: that didn't quite reach faraway europe, I don't
think, no.
fluffypony: bounce: or wait, I'm
talking about
the old South African zine called forbidden knowledge, not sure if you were just saying
that in general
bounce: back in
the days of 'zines over modem and even
the odd book with virus listings from
the library. forbidden knowledge!
bounce: borland
turbo C also had a similar "basm"
thingy, so no need
to fsck around with hexstrings.
tp was just
the
thing we used because it was easy
to use. indeed, easier
than
tc.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I will have
to go soon.
mircea_popescu: i haven't since
the days i was looking
through files
to spot stoned.b
Naphex: in order
too keep
this channel cool
mircea_popescu: wtf is it going
to do with it, give you asm error messages ?
Naphex: people here should stop
talking about
turbo pascal
dignork: bounce,
there was a debug.exe just
to write .COM, i
think it was still supplied in winXP
bounce: and can relatively simply be put on a 360k floppy; just drop
the bgi stuff from
the std lib collection. compiler, stdlib, 3rd party editor. off you go.
that just doesn't work so well with C.
bounce: the
tp compiler does its
thing much quicker
than
the
tc compiler
bounce: smallest
TSR I did was... 32 bytes
total memory cost. 16 bytes code, 16 bytes allocated memory given
to DOS before exiting.
fluffypony: borland really screwed
things up over
the years
bounce: borland
turbo pascal was a great step-up
to asm because it was easy
to get going with --also nicely light-weight compared
to C!-- and made inline asm ridiculously easy.
fluffypony: dignork: before
that list I used a Peter Norton programming guide
that had an interrupt
table
dignork: fluffypony, and Ralph Brown's INT list, although
there was some nice interactive help system as well
robwhiz22: I used
the address from
the cryptome announcement, which you responded
to once suggesting I
talk
to you here.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, you said earlier you did not see my
two emails
to you. I forwarded both
to you now - did you get
them?
fluffypony: dignork: it was
the gold standard at
the
time :-P
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I remember
trading copies on stiffy disk because
the Internet wasn't as common, and
then eventually in like 1998/1999 downloading my first "current" release
dignork: ew, I remember writing
TSR programs in
TP+asm, it was a horrible junk
fluffypony: who remembers Swag,
the
Turbo Pascal code snippets collection?
mircea_popescu: actually it was a while until
they had
the first optimizing compiler working
fluffypony: jurov: I will say
this much,
Turbo Pascal forced me
to learn asm because some functions were orders of magnitude faster when offloaded
to inline asm
daybyter: fluffypony: I started a rewrite of
that game in javascript
to use it for coin gaming.
jurov: if
there was a cool DOS game built on lisp
jurov: anyway. what i want
to say, despite it was quite decent environment, it naturally led everyone
to use
turbopascal&co.
fluffypony: and nobody understood wtf I was
talking about
bounce: some
things are best forgotten
Diablo-D3: quickbasic uses a more powerful version of
that editor
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it was [pretty obvious even at
the
time.
they looked alike.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I learned something
today I never knew...mind blown.
mircea_popescu: i kept editing
the code
to do weird shit. was loads of fun
[\]: since algebra says
things must be balanced
bounce: did get a forth from somebody, but without a good book it was hard
to get started with it
[\]: and
thinking
that
that statement was impossible
fluffypony: I vastly preferred PowerBasic
to
Turbo PAscal
[\]: I still remember seeing a=a+1 for
the first
time
bounce: back when, no ubiquitous 'net, not even a modem, and no connections
to extoll
the virtues of lisp
jurov: i progressed
to pascal,
too
fluffypony: jurov: you
think
that's bad, I started on GWBASIC and
then progressed
to Pascal
mircea_popescu: jurov if you stole msdos
to
the degree you
thought it was free
jurov: all
these high horses
jurov: because nobody could be bothered
to make free list for msdos
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that's not pulling a bitcoinica,
that's pulling a washingtonica.
jurov: all
that rubbish. why i had
to do my first programming steps in qbasic?
thestringpuller: the problem of bitcoin is
the problem of
the internet...eternal september
mircea_popescu: we do not want "more adoption", especially if
that "more adoption" is sandmans brought in by aspirin bitcoin "jesuses"
mircea_popescu: "This brings me
to
the core of what I dislike about Wolfram's book. It is going
to set
the field back by years. On
the one hand, scientists in other fields are going
to
think we're all crackpots like him. On
the other hand, we're going
to be deluged, again, with people who fall for
this kind of nonsense. I expect
to have
to waste a lot of
time in
the next few years de-programming students who'll have read A New Kind of
ozbot: Unsorted collection of various Cardano related updates + spurious pics pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mirce
fluffypony: asciilifeform:
the seed is a digital breathalyser...works best when you're drunk;)
jurov: robwhiz22: google
the logs for hookers+microphone
assbot: Last
trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096485 BTC [+]
robwhiz22: jurov, is
there a write-up somewhere?
fluffypony: robwhiz22:
the rng project is basically based on buttcoin:sharpie density
bounce: bogon-triggered
tacnuke
jurov: but you seem
to be write-only dude
jurov: robwhiz22: it's often discussed here, if you'd actually read
the logs
mircea_popescu: mike_c next
time you want
to ask me why
the cardano isn't done by xmas...
mike_c: 3 hours!
that
take some serious zen power.
bounce: no, he is a dog.
this is
the internets.
jurov: or a pig...
there's actually a book about
that
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> no one can say i wasn't patient. << and
that's an understatement