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mircea_popescu: first thging you teach idiot kids. "don't close your eye. don't squint"
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: but same moidel. useful item with market that doesn't exist for public.
mircea_popescu: apparently they don't like that business model.
ben_vulpes: don't the eyeglass lenses have a focus at infinity problem?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] if the fashion looks like it doesn't have the steam, backlash prevails. << i wonder if Apple has the steel to pull off their watch play.
ben_vulpes: words don't just *lose* their meaning mircea_popescu sheesh
hanbot: isn't that incestuous?
ben_vulpes: Zarathul: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=252647 << that's your inspiration? and is lith playable anywhere?
mircea_popescu: that can't be a problem because internet doubles every year
Adlai: you guys would like this talk, he just spent ~3 minutes talking about how americans can't read anymore
mircea_popescu: mod6 but a) a block can no longer be an orphan once the block at the height it disputes has its coinbases spendable ; b) the sum total of orphans to date isn't, if memory serves, 8gb.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6: so we /might/ need to add something similar... but im not positive that this is actually the issue yet. << i don't see how concurrent chains would cause memory outages. << well, there is a container that holds these orphan blocks unchecked in v0.5.3. if this actually is related to the R.I. chewing through all its ram, perhaps a limit should be introduced.
Adlai: lol this guy's roadmap for bitcoin adoption: cannabis, gun dealers, and then "pilates instructors, masseuses, and anybody else who doesn't want to pay a single dollar to the IRS"
Adlai: there shouldn't be any problem incorporating headers-first mitigation of that ddos vector
mircea_popescu: mod6: so we /might/ need to add something similar... but im not positive that this is actually the issue yet. << i don't see how concurrent chains would cause memory outages.
Adlai: they're probably more likely to make a sale if they put up a sign saying they don't take bitcoin
Adlai: this is from jeffrey tucker, the only speaker who hasn't used a slideshow
pete_dushenski: so fat dudes with acne aren't in to fashions?
asciilifeform: and aren't about to stop.
asciilifeform: there was a fairly detailed discussion here in #b-a re: why ocular displays which don't suck have been costing the same 100k usd since 1985.
pete_dushenski: it's not clear to me why everyone couldn't have a glasshole
mircea_popescu: otherwise, backlash doesn't.
mircea_popescu: if the fashion looks like it doesn't have the steam, backlash prevails.
Adlai: if it can't be done thru assbot i don't wanna hear about it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how social works work. so : if anyone can get one, it's ok. if it becomes apparent not everyone will have one, it's not.
asciilifeform doesn't get the whole 'glasshole' meme. carrying a pNohe everywhere, with its two or three cameras pointed every-which-way, is somehow perfectly civilized; but wearing a threadbare camera on your head, not ?
mircea_popescu: and if you recall, i'm actually against "free drugs". but that doesn't change they don't have much of a logical standpoint.
fluffypony: artists don't have particularly big guns ;)
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: that's an entirely separate issue to "I choose to live in your house and abide by your rules...except when it doesn't suit and I can just claim 'art' instead"
assbot: Maybe the blockchain could be the basis of a global "web of trust" and that could be an hugely big deal. https://t.co/jaQC4zLSuT
mircea_popescu: ms has not become a different beast. what used to be foss has decayed to the level one can't distinguish it from microsoft anymore.
mod6: haven't added anything for that yet.
jurov: if they didn't chase the performance and went with real database, one'd just create another table for orphans
Adlai: actually i didn't see him at the conference itself yesterday, but his goons from the kickoff party were hanging around, so i'm guessing he was there too
Zarathul: didn't get a chance to talk, looking fwd to it
Zarathul: just haven't met him online
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2015 11:38:55; fluffypony: oh and Google finally killed off Glass (although I don't suspect they'll stop the research into wearables)
fluffypony: oh and Google finally killed off Glass (although I don't suspect they'll stop the research into wearables) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JshJMAnYHHo#t=1058
ben_vulpes: i can't imagine you're much of a follower
pete_dushenski: hey i'm not about to come over there and make you do anything you don't wanna do
ben_vulpes: "FUCK THIS WHY AREN'T WE AT THE CABIN"
ben_vulpes: I DON'T GET THE CEPHALAPOD JOKE
pete_dushenski: but i don't let them close to my fambly/harim money!
punkman: well don't go to random hobo's hackathon what's the point
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: we can't tell if the nefarious plan is retarded though.
ben_vulpes: notion being: show up; don't pitch; build hilaribad thing; present like seasoned shartup pros; clean up
pete_dushenski: and if you don't like it gtfu
pete_dushenski: considered leftist perversions, without entitlement to social protection of any kind." << i can't make this shit up
pete_dushenski: i don't have a single stream, but many
ben_vulpes: haw, ain't no money in advertisements.
mircea_popescu: well the quote salad certainly doesn't seem to mean anything
pete_dushenski: basically, they don't work from causes too well
pete_dushenski: they don't much care for progressives or equality
asciilifeform: didn't somebody link to a post of this very same argument, written by a blind man (yes) in that gang ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you don't understand how the baptist worlkd works!
Adlai: just didn't have a presentation
Adlai: (this was in a comparison of bitcoin to tcp/ip or smtp... "you can't short SMTP when your inbox takes forever to load"
mircea_popescu: undata: because terrorists can't find an old copy of gpg? << gun laws aren't predicated on the theory that criminals can't find a gun.
mircea_popescu: davout: that doesn't make much sense to me, how would a maliciously crafted pubkey even verify the signature? << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2015#981108 ☝︎
Adlai: original btc was an experiment, doesn't excuse treating it as "just an experiment" nowadays
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: original pgp was not an apparatus for one-off deals with strangers, but something to use between friends, as i understand. << what you say is accurate, but doesn't excuse. suppose i knock up a girl, and the blastule in her folds goes "hey, daddy's cock was crooked, so let's make the baby's cunt crooked too. nothing like baking in random assumptionbs for no good reason!"
Adlai: (not that most other "news" sites, on all topics, don't do this)
mircea_popescu: expensive fur is expensive for very good reasons that can't really be grasped fully untill you rub your cock on it.
Adlai: orthodox jewish women don't get to wear the fancy stuff
Adlai: in the (badly remembered, can't be bothered to watch all his youtube videos to find the exact) words of the great Pat Condell: "they'd rather the world returned to the stone age, aside from a brief excursion into seventeenth century poland for some clothes"
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i wasn't probably ever cing to get it. << you fucks, in five years nobody's going to be able to read the logs who hasn't been here for six lol
Adlai: hey now, bfl miners exist, i have one as a doorstop since it doesn't work anymore
mircea_popescu: i wasn't probably ever cing to get it.
Adlai: don't rum and logs
Adlai: won't gossipd mitigate this to some extent?
decimation: asciilifeform: of course, said 'pill' couldn't have been 'fired in anger' either? don't need higher math to understand the implications
asciilifeform: remember, this isn't from the cracking-pgp division
asciilifeform: this is the first document where i'm nearly convince that it isn't a hangout.
mircea_popescu: transvestites aren't worth it.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have to be ON THE EXACT END
decimation: because they don't want to be held to 'common carrier' standards of common access and maintenance
asciilifeform: when i got the building there wasn't even a battery.
decimation: or email address, that we can't penetrate that, that's a problem.""
cazalla: rate Rozal -3 threatened to rate me -10 because he doesn't understand how the WoT actually works, see http://pastebin.com/PABNbsex for conversation, offered to then pay me to remove the -1 earning him a -3
asciilifeform: if there isn't one - can forge.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't forge past because you can' register old deeds.
mircea_popescu: <PeterL> I don't suppose people pass keys down to their heirs? << people well might.
PeterL: I don't suppose people pass keys down to their heirs?
asciilifeform: ozymandias - won't.
davout: yeah well, i wanted to point out that it didn't really prevent anyone from checking the inner sig at home
davout: say i want to timestamp a contract i made with someone also in the L2 group as nested clearsigns, i doesn't really matter which signature is checked by deedbot, right?
davout: i don't really see a use for that
PeterL: wouldn't keys already be public when registering with assbot?
punkman: it doesn't really, but it's useful nonetheless
davout: we don't need Z to witness that X and Y signed a contract together, because any party can and will use GPG
davout: that didn't parse
mircea_popescu: PeterL original spec didn't call for that.
davout: greatly simplifies the problem, don't see too much downside to it, and we're eventually moving to gossipd anyway
davout: anyway, my point wrt to deedbot is that it's supposed to be used by ppl with L1/L2 trust, it doesn't need to check gpg signatures, so let anyone with +v in -assets use it, do away with the requirement that a keyid belonging to someone in assbot's wot be presented or maliciously hammered into the message
mircea_popescu: dude rms, you saved 24 bytes aren't you a smart fucking cookie.
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2015 22:34:54; davout: asciilifeform: yeah, that's what i was reading, it mentions user ids in the subpackets spec, but i'm unsure whether that includes an actual key fingerprint, i tend to understand that it doesn't
davout: gpg can't know the fpr for a key it doesn't have, the information isn't part of the signature packet
davout: the crux is 'verified keys', if deedbot doesn't maintain a full keyring at all times it can't pull fingerprints