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cgcardona_: I just recently registered for this room. I had to register my nick w/ nickserv. Then w/ gribble i `register cgcardona_ <gpg ID>`. gribble replies w/ a challenge string which I then signed w/ my gpg key and put on to pastebin. Then to gribble I said `verify <pastebin url>` and my registration was good. Now to assbot I ca n`!up` and it works. Each time to register w/ gribble I `auth cgcardona_ ` to which it replies w/ anoth
fluffypony: I don't think you can burn now
fluffypony: you could only burn at the beginning
benkay: which is scamcoin red flag of the highest order.
benkay: although i guess xcp is a limited time burn thing?
benkay: also distributed exchanges do shit like publish charts that only go through february: http://blockscan.com/burn.aspx
TestingUnoDosTre: ;;ident TestingUnoDosTre
fluffypony: it's ,, not ;; for that
gribble: Error: 'name>' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
gribble: #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/>; Vanitas pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/vanitas/>; This privacy thing… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/this-privacy-thing/>
TestingUnoDosTre: whoops, was looking in teh wrong log
gribble: #bitcoin-otc: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php>; Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki: <http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Beginners_Guide>
ThickAsThieves: someone made a guide i think
ThickAsThieves: you need to register with WoT and register that same nick with freenode nameserv
TestingUnoDosTre: no, i mean joining the wot or whatever so I don't have to get voiced up ery 30 minutes
benkay: what do you mean by gpg verification, TestingUnoDosTre ?
benkay: ("Disclaimer: Blockscan is not responsible for the accuracy of the content listed here.")
TestingUnoDosTre: anyone know where the instructions are for this gpg key verification ? can't find in the log
assbot: Voicing TestingUnoDosTre for 30 minutes.
ThickAsThieves: !up TestingUnoDosTre
benkay: dude is selling an in-game-currency 'meat' on one of the distributed exchanges
assbot: Insufficient rights, ThickAsThieves.
ThickAsThieves: !up TestingUnoDosTre
cgcardona_: ThickAsThieves: interesting points. I'll consider them.
ThickAsThieves: it places MORE burden on the issuer of the color
benkay: bitcoin isn't strong enough to enforce alloidal title.
benkay: basically paper only has value if there's someone with a gun backing that statement of value.
ThickAsThieves: but it doesnt remove the risk that the issuer is going to liberate your value
ThickAsThieves: the push for them comes from a desire to remove centralized exchanges for stocks or property
ThickAsThieves: then, take colored coins
ThickAsThieves: if/when that sidething scams, what then?
ThickAsThieves: if/when that sidething dies, what then?
ThickAsThieves: depends on the specific case, but, for example, some of these things require you to "burn" coins, or somewhat permanently assign them
cgcardona_: ThickAsThieves: can you explain what you mean by that? How will they accomplish that?
ThickAsThieves: at least for the forseeable future
ThickAsThieves: more likely, they will do nothing but liberate bitcoins from those who dont deserve them
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cgcardona_: which would seemingly push the value of an individual btc highter.
cgcardona_: i'm wondering how the alt coin scene will change w/ the arrival of mastercoin and/or colored coins and/or sidechains. If I understand correctly these will layer abstractions upon bitcoin which will use a satoshi as a level of abstraction to represent anything (stock option, gold bar, keys to a car, deed to a house, etc). If that's the case then all that value should be driven back into the bitcoin blockchain right?
cgcardona_: awesome. my thoughts exactly
benkay: cgcardona_: altcoins are always worth talking about, although some more than others.
cgcardona_: i've read online that 24 hrs has happened to other people. so I'm gonna wait until later today before I contact support.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform i guess we wait until humans manage to grow functional brains on a petri dish, then the argument will be settled.
cgcardona_: it looks like cryptsy hasn't broadcast them yet. cause I created new addresses for each withdraw/coin and I'm not seeing those addresses show up on any blockchains yet
benkay: cgcardona_: are they actually in the memory pool or has cryptsy not broadcast them yet?
cgcardona_: and of course I've been dabbling in alt just cause I like the idea of cryptos in general
cgcardona_: what is the general take in here on altcoins? cool to discuss or not here?
asciilifeform: the simpler the metabolism, the more so.
asciilifeform: they taste like grass.
kakobrekla: you tried it?
cgcardona_: damn cryptsy is slow- withdrew 7 different coins about 24 hrs ago and the transactions are still *pending*
kakobrekla: yes that is happening nowdays
asciilifeform: 'We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium.'
fluffypony: and it's going to be on Linux
fluffypony: I don't play games often, but damn the Civilization: Beyond Earth trailer makes me want to play again
kakobrekla: the machines surely would have figured that out
fluffypony: asciilifeform: yeah I remember something like that too, the battery thing was done to make it more accessible
kakobrekla: i dont think its optimal to keep the whole brain and whole human alive to compute some stuff
dignork: kakobrekla, they use humans to solve capcha
asciilifeform: less of one than 'battery'
kakobrekla: what sort of a sick joke is this
asciilifeform: but this was later 'dumbed down.'
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: if i recall, the original script for the film called for the robot overlords to use mankind as distributed computing elements, rather than 'batteries'
asciilifeform: strap a 'peltier' to your wrist. body heat. a milliamp or so.
kakobrekla: havent you seen the matrix?
asciilifeform: and, assuming you are storing only fuel and not oxidizer, you can safely carry it without fear of it releasing all of the energy stored therein within a second
asciilifeform: you can move fuels, unlike electric charge, without gigantic thermal losses
asciilifeform: if you want a portable gizmo that can be 'charged' in seconds, without carrying a bomb, fuel cells on butane (as in cigarette lighter) are probably your ticket.
asciilifeform: which makes it a useful gadget, for powering clocks, etc. rather than what would amount to an unstable explosive.
asciilifeform: the chemistry of the ultracap gives it intrinsically high resistance
dignork: asciilifeform, talking about sparcfun datasheet
dignork: asciilifeform, this datasheet is horrible, looks like they list different devices, and for 10F device there is only one max resistance - 80 at 3A
asciilifeform: if ultracaps did not have large internal resistance, you would not ever want to be near, much less carry, a charged one ☟︎
asciilifeform: dignork: that's because it's non-linear.
dignork: asciilifeform, so the current listed is for discharge?
asciilifeform: dignork: notice the internal resistance given for specific currents?
asciilifeform: dignork: right, these.
dignork: asciilifeform, sparfun toy: https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Components/TS12S-R.pdf, rated/max current 1750/4500, probably in mA
ThickAsThieves: how to protect myself from the laser apocalypse?
asciilifeform: if the 'mythical holy grail battery' were ever to appear, you will know about it - not from idiot press releases and grantsmanship, but - from laser pistol fire in the streets.
ThickAsThieves: then the next morning it was all swelling
asciilifeform: you can buy them
asciilifeform: dignork: worth investigating the properties of actual, rather than mythical, supercaps
dignork: asciilifeform, originally they where talking about new type of battery which can be charged fast, not too amazing since there are supercapacitor batteries already.
asciilifeform: likewise, go and put 600W for 30 sec. through a phone-sized piece of whatever material you like, then put it in your pocket, get back to us.
asciilifeform: anyone who knows of, say, a MOSFET rated for 600W, that fits in a phone, please wake me up
kakobrekla: <assbot> Insufficient rights, pankkake. < cause of the split :\
kakobrekla: anyway these battery 'revolutions' come once a week, for the past, i dunno, 10 years
asciilifeform: lithium cells already have interesting problems when the safety fuse, for whatever reason, fails to blow
kakobrekla: yea well of course you cant charge the battery so fast out of thin air
dignork: asciilifeform, it's because they charge their own battery: http://phys.org/news/2014-04-storedot-second-battery.html
dignork: ThickAsThieves, sorry, the message was intended to kakobrekla, about the 30 sec message
benkay: wish i had problems like that
ThickAsThieves: they're all like We now have rules that gov should report discovered flaws, but yknow, we wont report shit if we like it that way
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benkay: thestringpuller: got plenty of sleep, tyvm.
BingoBoingo: Maybe. I'd need to github set up
thestringpuller: maybe you can help. eventually i was hoping to have a script that pulled an insult from the list...
thestringpuller: i need to update it