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mircea_popescu: you'll never be able to decypher what i meant by that. ever.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony oh that ? the greeks had it. here's an example :
mircea_popescu: da fuck, if you're gonna refer to unrelated matters in your captatio, at least get the facts straight. snowden was a contractor not an agent.
fluffypony: "Absolutely stability cryptographic system – it’s a system that CAN BE DECIPHERED NEVER AND BY NOBODY AT ANY LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT OF A SCIENCE AND COMPUTER FACILITIES (it can’t be cracked even with the help of supercomputers, for example – with the use of the developed quantum computer, even if it is completely developed in the future, because the RMX protection system is released on a new class of mathematical functions unknown to moder
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he links to this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon
BingoBoingo: Absolute stability prolly means the private key is always the same
mircea_popescu: "After the scandal around the National Security Agency (NSA ) of the USA and after revelations of the ex-agent of CIA Edward Snowden it became known that NSA can crack cryptoprotection of Internet communications. "
mircea_popescu: da fuck is "absolute stability" supposed to be ?
fluffypony: I bet that was written by robwhizz22
pankkake: apparently "PGP" is an algorithm. it's next to "RSA"
BingoBoingo: Look at this crank http://rmxcrypt.com/
BingoBoingo: English may be rather flexible, but Texas is less so
danielpbarron: no, the people there are pretty much the same as anywhere else
mircea_popescu: so do people there call each other "you waco" ?
mircea_popescu: well i never been to waco
BingoBoingo: Waco's a pretty big town
danielpbarron: i visited a different false church that was coincidentally located in Waco
BingoBoingo: I'm just thinking that this thing started with one dude and cows as opposed to an entire group of dudes.
danielpbarron has been to Waco
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, that WAS the end of the atf.
mircea_popescu: and the texas governor wasn't going omgwtfbbq at the feds.
mircea_popescu: well... there were no thousands of armed people marching on waco from six states
mircea_popescu: very. cause everyone is comparing it to the waco thing.
BingoBoingo: At least it is a very different thing so far than what would have happened in the 90's
mircea_popescu: not that it'll work, but that's the very substance of statal collapse : reasonable measures no longer actually work.
mircea_popescu: can resume at a later time, when teh people have had time to grind themselves down.
mircea_popescu: it's what i'd do too. if the guy takes the cattle away, problem solved. if he doesn't, then by definition they'll still be there,
BingoBoingo: Looks like it, or at least they are "pausing" it
mircea_popescu: yeah, didn't the blm leave ?
BingoBoingo: but I think asciilifeform posted that this weekend
BingoBoingo: Well, there's also the standoff in Utah between government forces and a local militia
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you see that ? "thanks for the 60 minutes of fun" the man says. why can't you be more like that!
los_pantalones: k, thanks for the 60 minutes of fun
mircea_popescu: or thay
los_pantalones: and see if that would critically impact other prior bets
los_pantalones: i was going to find the optimal time to bet
mircea_popescu: to leverage the fact that we have a 50 year history of price signal in that asset.
mircea_popescu: a good approach, perhaps, would be to create a class of similar bets and follow them over the history of brk.a
los_pantalones: can i ask if you are pro/anti the accelerated decay argument?
los_pantalones: welp, let me see if i can put something coherent together in the next couple days
mircea_popescu: then if i don't understand wtf you're saying ima ask somebody to read it to me.
mircea_popescu: you can assume complete and absolute comprehension on the part of -assets, like you were talking to god.
los_pantalones: i'll try to get something more concrete for you
los_pantalones: trying to follow your rules
los_pantalones: yeah, learning the ropes here
mircea_popescu: also to voice yourself, id with gribble an pm assbot !up
mircea_popescu: (see the prev day too, it was a lengthy discussion)
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones i was hoping for something more along the lines of a set of numeric examples, or in any sense some math analysis. opinion based we've had already, such as for instance :
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los_pantalones: i started a math optimization as well, prob best not to share that though
ozbot: bitbet time decay - Pastebin.com
los_pantalones: here's the email
los_pantalones: was getting my head around them
los_pantalones: mircea_popescu this is admittedly from the first time i looked at the contracts
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BingoBoingo: ;;google site:trilema.com let us understand mutual betting together
los_pantalones: so the longer it's not near the event the lower the prob of it occuring
mircea_popescu: take your time
mircea_popescu: i've been trying to write an article the past half hour, so, i can use the break
los_pantalones: whereas a price bet requires time to work towards a goal
los_pantalones: that bet can hit all the way to the last day
los_pantalones: quicker than say something like "will there be a gay player in baseball by august 10th"
los_pantalones: but the basic premise is that price bets are not a binary event, they lose probability over time
los_pantalones: give me a sec to get stuff up
los_pantalones: so that works too
mircea_popescu: one of the best cartoon characters of all time. always naked from the waist down, always funny pants reference names, a whole pants thing
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mircea_popescu: so pastebin that thing if it's not secret
los_pantalones: a man in tight pants, who likely shouldn't be
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
dexX7: or maybe it's only because i'm too used to the original
los_pantalones: i am the twitter guy
dexX7: it's too flashy and colorful
dexX7: i don't like the .lk design
mircea_popescu: dexX7 you may be the last one using .org, people kinda moved to .lk
dexX7: "The same bug also affected the forum. Changing your forum password is recommended." on btctalk.. is this msg new?
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones you teh twitter guy ?
mircea_popescu: To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass.
mircea_popescu: maybe s/To get a voice, a permission to speak/To get voice (ie, to be able to speak),
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla good move on the assbot pm
Namworld: Bounce, if someone took it from the hacker and spammed the users telling them "We already have your docs, come trade on a good BTC market! *LINK*"
fluffypony: but the opportunity to keep using the tools even with only 25% of their capital that was in gox
fluffypony: a lot of heavy traders aren't going to want to reinvest fresh capital and then still have to pay for compatability with whatever platform they use
fluffypony: also afaik, wasn't gox tightly integrated into some trading platforms?
Namworld: That's the only thing I can imagine someone going after, the doxed userbase without having to pay balances
bounce: depends a bit on what you could do with that. though apparently you could've grabbed that yourself, seeing the guys that first promised not to sell the loot, then offered to sell it anyway.
Namworld: They could even relaunch anew with their own name
Namworld: If they don't have to pay back balances lost, just what's left, and get to have all the userbase with docs...
Namworld: Depends on the sort of capital they have. Gox's name isn't what's doomed. It's the code created by Karpeles and Karpeles himself.
bounce: could be a TLAgency front. then again, why go through all the trouble? might as well set up one anew.
fluffypony: maybe they think the gox name is salvageable
fluffypony: bounce: who knows what goes through their heads
bounce: then call it a day. then what? a rotten website and trading "engine", an unwilling user base (I mean... well, they didn't walk away before, did they?), and, trouble with nosy 'merkin regulators. what'd be in it for them?
fluffypony: I don't think they'd be stupid enough to cover the rest, unless they never want to ever achieve any level of profitability
Namworld: Assuming Karpeles doesn't get to keep his 100k that he "also lost"
fluffypony: of what they had
fluffypony: and then distribute that proportionally
fluffypony: they'll probably take the BTC pool that has been "discovered"
Namworld: So, basically, they are insane?