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mircea_popescu: even things the russians mistake for "slav spirit" are about as chinese as it can be.
mircea_popescu: this has been china for pretty much the entire interval
mircea_popescu: buncha equal peons, and the emperor drunk out of his mind. between these, a bureaucracy, completely arbitrarily "educated" by rote.
mircea_popescu: i don't think they were ever anything else.
bounce: anyway, china going communist has, well, at least given a different flavour to the thing. wonder if and when they're going to do something about that
bounce: I think I'm missing context here.
mircea_popescu: who doesn't think farmers understand, because for shephers... c'e diverso. e con le stelle, uno puo parlare.
benkay: well the things are real. the constructs i wrap around them are just figments of my own mind.
bounce: doesn't stop shit from getting real, though
mircea_popescu: is the world for real, or just pretense ?
jurov: bounce they need to secure oil and other supplies from others
TestingUnoDosTre: Translate the tornatore
mircea_popescu: maybe. hard to tell really.
bounce: china was always quite a lot self-centered. this appears to be a bit less the case of late.
mircea_popescu: or in the words of tornatore (uomo delle stelle), "e il mondo vero, or solo per finta ?"
benkay: don't bring that mystical claptrap around here
mircea_popescu: in that physicalist view you'll have trouble showing people even exist at all.
mircea_popescu: benkay no but on the naively nominalist view that "you" existed sincer forever and will exist forever. soul or w/e.
benkay: doesn't sound so steady to me
benkay: for a century at a time with interruptions
mircea_popescu: the steady state of planet earth is china being teh world empire
mircea_popescu: sure there is. the steady state of humans is being dead.
benkay: everything oscillates. there is no such thing as steady state in natural systems.
mircea_popescu: with temporary century-long interruptions due to invasions and whatnot. it always reverted.
mircea_popescu: what the us pretends for itself, china has been, for the past ~5000 years
mircea_popescu: bounce the little known fact is that china was always the world's empire.
TestingUnoDosTre: My bank claims to use no openNESS. Any easy way to verify this claim?
bounce: interesting to see the differences. as an up-and-coming empire they're occasionally serious about appearing to be a functional government (as well as not that respectful of human life; they feel they have too many people running around already), where the US, er, works a bit differently.
mircea_popescu: yet the chinese routinely shoot people for 1mn
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and the thing is, god help you if you sell the chinese golden toilets. afaik nobody got shot when it was discovered haliburton "misplaced" 1 bn in the various senatorial etc campaign slushfunds in iraq
mircea_popescu: (read that again. fine = pretty broad. jesus i fucking love myself har har har)
mircea_popescu: only one i can think of. and the definition of "fine" must be pretty... broad.
bounce: there's places that allow 'true' unnamed discussion and have it work fine, too
TestingUnoDosTre: Or editors for that matter
mircea_popescu: but if you can't afford what you need, isn't that an indication that you shouldn't be doing what you're doing ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have to be "real", because wtf is that real mean, but it does have to be identity.
mircea_popescu: i still think discussion is impossible absent identity.
bounce: I'm reminded of the register, where they used to moderate each and every comment, and then gradually lifted the requirement. they have a reasonably vibrant commenter community, without requiring facebook or real names or what-have-you.
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy, "this newspaper closed until we can find some not-retartded people to read it"
TestingUnoDosTre: There IS more than meets the eye
mircea_popescu: bounce it's not trivial to actually burn down a modern transformer.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i wonder if they'll do a wot-based +m :D
bounce: hm. burned to the ground or shut down by regulations. alright, the red tape wins.
mircea_popescu: you cant just top up and seal.
mircea_popescu: and because of ecological concerns, old style coolant mixtures that were azerotropic were replaced with new, more expensive formulations. a punctured coolant room means you have to empty, was and refill.
mircea_popescu: the thing goes offline w/o coolant.
mircea_popescu: bounce not really. all the bullet needs to do is perforate the coolant room. anywhere.
Apocalyptic: too much butts to fix
bounce: or that. anything to cause a nice electrical fire. bullets have a harder time there, despite their awesome speed. substations are like that.
mircea_popescu: bounce how so ? do the energy calc.
bounce: or squirrels, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: they're conveniently forgetting to mention the ominous part where the attackers disabled the security with minimal, expert moves.
benkay: (how the fuck do you snipe *anything* inside a substation - lines of sight have to be like 20ft max)
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic this was an actual event btw.
mircea_popescu: something like that.
bounce: what was it again, guaranteed (low) prices for consumers and "free market" stupidity for suppliers, in california, that led to under-investing in infrastructure and utilities basically bleeding themselves dry, leading to years to come full of brownouts and blackouts
danielpbarron: but i'm in "the north," so that's easier for me to say
danielpbarron: i prefer to go without AC; I like being out in the sun while the summer lasts
benkay: okay i get journos are tarded.
mircea_popescu: likely to hit the south the worst, too, which is ideal on at least two counts.
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be a long hot summer boys and girls. no better way to get the masses to believe in global warming than keeping them without ac for a summer.
ozbot: It's way too easy to cause a massive blackout in the US - Vox
mircea_popescu: in other-other news, the us preparing for electricity rationing :
thestringpuller: ^- well that's good to hear no?
mircea_popescu: fucking kiss of death, this, only commodified businesses have the time. finance is dead.
mircea_popescu: so citi conference call, all they want to talk about is how they're cutting costs.
TestingUnoDosTre: Fun fact: someone I know sent to a dispensary in Denver that sold bath salts, but the cashier had to warn" not the ones you're thinking of"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.41934336 BTC to 8`322 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre they were prolly doing bath salts
TestingUnoDosTre: Haha marijuana in the toilet bowl. Gotta torch the evidence, newbies
benkay: whatever happened to 'cops are coming - run!'
danielpbarron: "The juveniles told the officers that there was a party that was out of control and people were drinking and smoking weed" NARCS!
ozbot: Havelock police bust party, charge mother, teens with alcohol offenses - Local News - The Havelock N
danielpbarron: IRS says BTC isn't a currency so that's that
mircea_popescu: benkay i'm just being steganographical. see because sometimes the things i say are in reality secret messages for uknown third parties according to secret schemes of encoding and so forth.
mike_c: my take: altcoin is made for spending, bitcoin is made for storing wealth.
BingoBoingo: I've just been locking the price into a range I find sustainable and magic happens
Apocalyptic: I heard the price is up 50% from last week, he better :)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you makin' a killing on this thing yet ? :D
mircea_popescu: "Is this still being mined.... I mined it when it had a coingen.io logo still and No source hahahaha"
mircea_popescu: Namworld:Depends on the sort of capital they have. Gox's name isn't what's doomed. << you gotta be kiddin' me.
thestringpuller: what makes atc a currency then?
mircea_popescu: not anymore than chocolate gold coins
mircea_popescu: why ty.
benkay: Namworld:Assuming Karpeles doesn't get to keep his 100k that he "also lost" << oh, he will. "what bitcoins?"
mircea_popescu: a well. wrong arizona then :p
thestringpuller: dog, this is cat, i have some bad news.
mircea_popescu: are you a hot blonde with a sister whose name is alabama and was played by patricia arquette in tarantino's movie ?
kakobrekla: yes, this is dog.
mike_c: the mediawiki scammers have bots that solve captcha. apparently that is more important than bitstamp.
mircea_popescu: i think the answer is self-oblivious.
mircea_popescu: "Why run an API through Incapsula?"
kakobrekla: >API calls are returning a captcha page. Regular visits to the site do so as well, but unlike me, my bot is unable to solve the captcha on its own.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay http://trilema.com/2014/the-discreet-escort-or-how-bitcoin-makes-prostitution-unprosecutable/ ask and ye shall receive.
TestingUnoDosTre: Oooh reselling bitbet positions, I like this idea
kakobrekla: <mike_c> yes, this is different because you can't sell a position. < its taking awfully long for someone to code that.
mike_c: i would think that would be the case. i would welcome an analysis of that topic with numbers and examples :)
los_pantalones: do you have to constantly reweight the size of your other side ?
los_pantalones: wouldn't that also increase liquidity on the other side of the bet
los_pantalones: so there is a big opportunity cost of taking the other side