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HeySteve: ah that's bad form, a man honours his debts
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: My waking hours as well as my online hours can be rather unpredictable even for myself. If you can find and event and we can agree to it before it plays I'd be amenable.
joecool: Matthew N. Wright is a former Republican member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives.
fluffypony: he had a bet that he lost
HeySteve: another scammer from old times?
fluffypony: a blight on the Bitcoin landscape
numerisTrade: ok, I'll prepare something. If you aren't on the channel then, I'll leave you a message, I'll be on the channel up till 21:00 GMT, or we'll meet tomorrow same time as today
BingoBoingo: I'd also be open to considering sports where you might have the knowledge advantage provided you can specify a decent resolution source.
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: We are all small, this space is still small. I mean +m only happened Friday.
BingoBoingo: Since this is a kind of novel thing it may be best if we keep the stakes low at 0.01 BTC simply because unescrowed bets have such a poor history in BTC so far thanks to MNW
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: I may not be awake then, but if I am I would still be amenable.
numerisTrade: ok, would you agree if we conducted this later on today? e.g. 2 p.m. GMT?
BingoBoingo: 5) If you win the bet you get coins and lended trust, or you lose and pay for trust for being a person of word in this matter
BingoBoingo: 4) we agree to an unescrowed bet.
BingoBoingo: 2) I pick a price for the outcome
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: Well I was going to suppose something along the lines of:
BingoBoingo: A number of students were shaken the rest of the morning after I broke the news
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: yeah this was in early 2010
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: The best place to get baseball knowledge
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: Well, since lending is about pricing risk I was going to suppose a challenge where you might price risk for trust
fluffypony: my knowledge of baseball comes from two weeks in St. Louis
fluffypony: numerisTrade: that makes two of us
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: borrowing when tipsy...? :-P
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: Pick a baseball game happening tomorrow
numerisTrade: trying to, yes
BingoBoingo: numerisTrade: You're welcome. Since the channel's quiet I'm trying to think about ways to give you level 2 with Assbot by trusting you that involve risk incurred on your part.
BingoBoingo: Well I guess since the second life thing they trade has been around, they probably function. It's just like they added support for crypto currencies while neglecting any sort of outreach. Also their limits seemed kind of crap when I tried them.
numerisTrade: I had some technical issues once, the support reacted quickly
numerisTrade: well, I don't trust them with a lot of money, but everything seemed ok
BingoBoingo: Wait TheRock is a thing? I made an account there once hoping to dump freexrp without a colonoscopy, but... seemed sketch
BingoBoingo: I'm a bit tipsy, but I'll take a look at it.
numerisTrade: gradually paving my way to bitcoin finance, currently starting with secured loans / repo transactions on small scale
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Apocalyptic: managers get the credit
mircea_popescu: kako did the hard work which is why i should be getting all the praise
bloctoc: for the record I don't know what secular means in this context.
bloctoc: does that mean it's a secular thing? I've seen some NMC services.
Apocalyptic: haven't seen the last pump
bloctoc: whoever set it up thanks. Have my prize.
Apocalyptic: indeed, he did the hard work
Apocalyptic: I haven't said this, but I think the new policy is a good idea, ty mircea
bloctoc: seems like the price of bitcoin went up quite a bit with this new voice policy
Apocalyptic: <the20year1> gribble keeps giving me an error when i do the pastebin thing // what's the error then ?
Apocalyptic: yes you have to auth the first time
Apocalyptic: the20year1, have you submitted the keys to GPG servers ?
the20year1: That's what i did, and it seemed like I still needed to register
the20year1: does that work for original registration?
BingoBoingo: I always just eauth and do the decrypt thing
the20year1: gribble keeps giving me an error when i do the pastebin thing
BingoBoingo: It indeed takes time the first time
the20year1: spent like 30m today trying to figure out how to authenticate via gpg and couldn't do it
assbot: Voicing the20year1 for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !up the20year1
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bloctoc: I don't know what that means
joecool: there's a process to go through to appeal a fine in this sort of situation
joecool: hired a better firm this year, they went over it and warned us we had to file, paid the filing fees from last year, and warned us to expect a letter from the IRS asking for damages
mircea_popescu: kinda stupid, why not use the year to create a tax liability
joecool: i'm in this situation from the last company i started, initial accountant gave us horrible advice for 2012 since we formed the LLC in november and turned *very* small revenue, said it would be under limit to file
joecool: for the tax liability yes, fines (not interest) though i believe would get waived
mircea_popescu: the owner is still responsible tho.
joecool: the individual signs off to say they are reporting their income and such to the best of their knowledge
joecool: well i mean if you actually look at the returns, the accountant is signing off to say they believe the return to be true to the best of their knowledge under penalty of perjury
mircea_popescu: 10 here, 15 there, etc.
mircea_popescu: so they re-allocated all teh customers to the shortlist of competent accountants all around town
mircea_popescu: turns out, an accountant handling the accounts of ~200 small businesses had been found by the tax authority to not have filed anything for months
mircea_popescu: actually a VERY similar thing happened here last year. i arrive at my accountant's office, usually a quiet place with maybe 1-2 other people present, cause the gal is nuts abour scheduling, to find it in complete turmoil, bunches of evidently panicked people.
TestingUnoDosTre: Huff post is like shit smeared all over the computer screen
joecool: accountant pocketed his tax payments, didn't file for 7 years, then kicked the bucket, no idea about the truth of it all
joecool: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/steve-harvey-20-million-tax-lien-ruined-marriage_n_4572436.html < had to look it up, someone mentioned this to me in passing a month or two ago
mike_c: what does 'held negligent' mean? you have to pay the penalties..
mircea_popescu: for the same sum
mircea_popescu: basically, as a us citizen you're better off if your accountant runs off with your money than if your accountant misfiles your taxes.
joecool: i'm assuming tax accountants carry insurance for this sort of thing
joecool: mike_c: for the amounts paid, but can't be held negligent if accountant fucks up
joecool: not sure how that works if the tax accounting firm fucks it up badly, does fed go after them or the individual?
TestingUnoDosTre: I hope they simplifiy the tax code and fuck mr rumsfeld
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate TomServo 1 New blood. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: tis true, he's been here forever. aite.
asciilifeform: next news: 'rumsfeld fined, estate auctioned, for inaccurate tax filings'
mircea_popescu: (yes, that'd donald rumsfeld)
assbot: Voice for TomServo extended to 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !up TomServo
asciilifeform: TomServo: what made you take an interest in this channel ?
TestingUnoDosTre: just make sure it's from a person on the Wot, then they'll give you a rate
asciilifeform: other than mr. whizz
asciilifeform: is there a vast legion of spammers, crying to get on the list?
mircea_popescu: once the Level 2: reads > 0 you can pm assbot !up and it'll voice you
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mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot TomServo
TomServo: Ah, so even being in wot I still need to ask for voice?
asciilifeform: complicated, to say 'book is dead.' books of horoscopes and dream divinations still printed by the zillion, 'soviet encyclopaedia of physics' - not.
mircea_popescu: maybe we'll hold a yearly vote at the conference to add more to the l1 list
mircea_popescu: i suppose each of the 29 will publish their own personal criteria, if/when they get around to it
mircea_popescu: yet the newspaper died, as did the book.
mircea_popescu: more's the point... to this day there are people running around claiming they're... "journalists"
TomServo: I'm sure it's been done to death, but could someone point me to instructions on getting into assbots wot?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kamkin lived by the 'sovietologists' of washington, and - died by them.
mircea_popescu: hello TomServo