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fluffypony: all the guys with large orders (>$500) are chilled, because they read the timelines during checkout, they understood how long it could take
fluffypony: 5 weeks to the UK
fluffypony: a lot of people complained, and we removed the shipping option
fluffypony: and there's literally nothing you can do in the interim
fluffypony: but they do take ~10 weeks to the US
fluffypony: no, they all arrived, we haven't had a lost shipment yet
fluffypony: and we shipped their order
BingoBoingo: So... Somali Pirates ate the rigs?
fluffypony: of course, because it's the cheapest, like 70% of the people went for it
fluffypony: it goes through the normal routing, but by ship, so it's extremely slow
fluffypony: but it's not by ship directly to the destination port
fluffypony: which is basically over the sea
BingoBoingo: Well, what's the whole story it is hard to find the original threads
fluffypony: and if you have a charming enough frontman you can be convinced of many things
fluffypony: afaik he went to Cyprus
mrstickball: did TAT meet with them in person?
fluffypony: mrstickball: with Neo&Bee there was due diligence from ThickAsThieves among others
mrstickball: 10 bitcoins says Havelock never met the owner/operators of NeoBee IRL
mrstickball: so if you want to send an address, a trust rating can be attached to said address to verify authenticity/legitimacy if the user desires such
fluffypony: TestingUnoDosTre: nobody does tranches, and when they do they generally do it badly
TestingUnoDosTre: Give people a projected spending and revenue for the quarter
mrstickball: I would think that Bitcoin needs to integrate a WoT mechanism endemic to private keys
TestingUnoDosTre: Why wouldn't you just raise the funds by smaller batches
fluffypony: I think it's an interesting proposition
fluffypony: and by high I'm not referring to stature
fluffypony: or "must be this high to stick arm in woodchipper"
fluffypony: and there's always going to be another ProtoShares or BitcoinBourse or whatever
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: there are always going to be *new* people with arms to stick in woodchippers
fluffypony: well, it wouldn't make spending too difficult (maybe make it a 3 of N multisig, for eg., or even less - 2 of N), but to make scamming more difficult and thus require not only the manipulation of the market but also the manipulation of the (more competent) investor pool
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: The solution is more along the lines of, if the woodchipper eats your right arm, don't offer it your left.
artifexd: Not from investing in things I found here, but from not losing money from investing in things not found here.
artifexd: I'd be so much richer if I had found this channel a year ago....
TestingUnoDosTre: So what are your thoughts
fluffypony: who will control the keys to that wallet (along with the CEO/CFO/chief bigwig/whatever)
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fluffypony: and have a small supervisory board elected among the shareholders
chmod755: BingoBoingo, Thank you
fluffypony: suggested that future IPOs could use a multi-sig wallet for funds raised
fluffypony: so on the back of this Neo&Bee scam
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 47.39894586 BTC to 8`421 shares, 562866 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.03408630 BTC to 8`421 shares, 36030 satoshi per share
jurov: I have found the phone number I used last year :)
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artifexd: As for my enterprise, I endeavor to turn desires into running code.
artifexd: I'd like to be there. My wife tells me that I shall go next year.
artifexd: I'm not there. I'm at work.
TestingUnoDosTre: Ahhh didn't see you were there
artifexd: TestingUnoDosTre: It is to this that I refer: http://trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition/
TestingUnoDosTre: Also, sometimes the crowd at the bar is trash
TestingUnoDosTre: So much action in the chat today
fluffypony: "Danny Brewster was GOX'ED. His creditors and employees were BEE'ED. If YOU don't want to be LOCAL'ED, CBASE'D or BITSTAMP'ED please, please, please with sugar on top, check out the new Armory cold storage wallet"
bounce: the valleys and the hills of the land of bitcoin. but maybe there's room for an ipo or two on some fiat exchanges.
Apocalyptic: bounce, what's the area you're servicing ?
bounce: "The goal of this IPO is to IPO on as many exchanges as possible."
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: yeah, but that just screams scammy
Apocalyptic: more potential "liquidity" to drain from
fluffypony: I never understood the need to IPO on multiple exchanges
Duffer1: in this space if you don't keep your own money there is no hope
fluffypony: maybe they live in hope
fluffypony: the timing does seem to be interesting
Duffer1: or maybe someone cursed with reallly bad timing
Duffer1: i'm curious if the above neobeeq buyer is dyslexic..
fluffypony: I'll hazard that he has a lot more on his person, but let's see
Duffer1: " that we in fact lost 2480 bitcoins in Mt. Gox" >> wow.. what wow
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: what's mpex's stance/your thoughts on companies that raise funds in BTC, but then don't only accept payment in BTC (and thus possibly being profitable from a fiat perspective, but not entirely from a BTC perspective) ?
kakobrekla: are you comming down tat ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves would you stop being arrogant to other people's customers!
ThickAsThieves: i like how this coinroll complainer doesnt even provide a tx
ThickAsThieves: but neither compares to arguing bitbet rules with you
ThickAsThieves: i also love watching the sea during a storm
mircea_popescu: weird mossboy from the everglades.
ThickAsThieves: just a lil wet out there
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so is this scam weather piddling or notrly ?
ThickAsThieves: shit, people still worrying on gox to return
mircea_popescu: the various return-of-satoshi mysticisms will be fun to watch in the coming yearsd
fluffypony: maybe just to screw with us he'll move some of those old coins around in like 2040
ThickAsThieves: satoshi wont return til he wants to fuck shit up
fluffypony: for that book you're writing?
fluffypony: we can rebuild it. we have the technology.
mircea_popescu: do you guise think satoshi will return ?
mircea_popescu: so if these idjits manage to bomb israel off the face of the map and then we rebuild wit with bitcoin
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate Mats_cd03 1 He does things with numbers.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate Mats_cd03 He does things with numbers.
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kakobrekla: ah that.
ThickAsThieves: i was dreaming that the vip guys were in a brawl in a field and i dove in to rumble then there was a tick in my glove and the hotel phone rang
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla from this log.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/457093668428840960 << that you ?
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, btc went up 10x over this year, avg bet went up 10%
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla that's historical.
ThickAsThieves: i responded to you tweet for you
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves quick impersonate TheRealThickAsThieves and say embarassing things
assbot: Voicing ThickAsThieves for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !up ThickAsThieves
assbot: Voicing thi for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !up thi
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it turns out, by the way, that the ~average~ open bitbet is 20 btc pool.