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artifexd: kakobrekla: Is
that article from #bitcoin-assets logs or a summary of a verbal discussion.
kakobrekla: and remember kids, no brain, no
tumor.
artifexd: Groupthink is
the problem, right? At least as far as it is not immediately visible as such.
artifexd: I had assumed in your example
that n(2) didn't rate you at all for
that specific scenario.
artifexd: If n(2) were
to rate you based soley on n(1)'s rating, yeah,
that'd be groupthink.
fluffypony: right, so sort by rating,
talk
to
those with
the most positive and most negative stories
thestringpuller: artifexd: no not at all.
that would be groupthink. n(2) did not see what n(1) did so
to rate me is
to group
think
artifexd: There are multiple ratings
that exist only
to move aethero's rating in a specific direction.
fluffypony: thus
the issue only arises when n(2) maintains a microscopic view and disregards
the WoT in favour of observed or hearsay indications of "trust"
artifexd: And in doing so, group
think should be visible.
artifexd: n(2) would probably look at all
the ratings given
to
thestringpuller and make his own jugement.
fluffypony: so if n(2) had a macroscopic view
they would see
the rating given by n(1) ?
artifexd: How is
that a problem? n(1) could rate you appropriately. n(2) could not.
fluffypony: so
then is it a matter of macroscopic vs. microscopic views of
the WoT as it relates
to a single entity within
the WoT?
thestringpuller: yes in
tandem, but
the problem is
the n nodes ignore
the script kiddies
artifexd: Well it wouldn't be just script kiddies and bots. If mircea_popescu were
to rate someone as something and
then everyone else in here were
to rate
that same person as
that same
thing, it would have
the same effect.
mrstickball: you mentioned script kiddies using bots
to upvote/ect
mrstickball: its not hard
to use a script
to defeat automated Reddit WOT bots,
too
mrstickball: I
think you could have independent audits of
the WoT
to verify legitimacy
artifexd: Then kakobrekla says "How does
that help?" How does
that help what and in what way?
artifexd: So actors A and B were good,
trustworthy people until
they fucked up. But actor C only sees one of
them fuck up. <- Am I
tracking so far?
artifexd: What does "herps derps legit
things" mean?
thestringpuller: so
the minorirty becomes
the actual
trustworthy people such as mircea_popescu or kako
thestringpuller: the WoT could be infiltrated by script kiddies who all rate each other and work in
tandem like group
think of reddit
thestringpuller: well
the example of
the
teacher an non paying attention students
artifexd: What does "herps derps legit
things" mean?
artifexd: I got
the whole "If
too much of
the wot acts in unison, it largely defeats
the point of a wot" part. It was
the last part about only witnessing half
the herp derping
that lost me.
bitcoinpete: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu if
tatiana is available for
the
third conference, you can judge her for yourself ;)
ozbot: Advanced WoT course : how
the WoT is attacked, and how it defends itself. pe
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ozbot: Project Free
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fluffypony: bitcoinpete: I have friends who are giant apes, so
that's ok
then :)
fluffypony: it's 10:30 and I'm 3/4 of a bottle of wine down, so not sure if I'll appreciate an article
that consists of more
than 4 paragraphs
TestingUnoDosTre: I ate some
taffy and it really started kicking in after a couple hours. Guess it absorbs better after you eat a fatty meal
cgcardona_: different
time frame w/ edibles.
They are just as good but you gotta wait half an hour or so. Sneaking a quick vaper is always
the way
to go. (if
that's your
thing of course)
fluffypony: it was fun, and I enjoyed
the food/booze
there significantly more
than like 95% of
the restaurants/takeout places I was hauled off
to in St. Louis
BingoBoingo: fluffypony:
That'd be Busch III, first season
there was in 2006
cgcardona_: its so common in SF
that you can just get away with it and noone says anything
cgcardona_: i saw roger waters
the wall at
the same stadium.
that was fucking insane
cgcardona_: I saw
the giants once in SF last year. but
that was it.
BingoBoingo: Still friday afternoon here. Have yet
to go
to
the liquor store.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I did half of
that already,
the rest is between you and a reference work on
the subject.
ozbot: Pitching Prognostication:
Tanaka | Bingo Blog
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 54.99062536 BTC
to 80`674 shares, 68164 satoshi per share
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: I don't really see
the point in
that
mrstickball: and given
the number of securities
that are both unregistered AND scams... is a problem
mrstickball: the problem is
that until you have full compliance with governments (just like with exchanges),
the government can come in and can anyone for any reason
danielpbarron: fluffypony: yeah, I really like
the idea
too, and I
think it could work fine for really small scale
trivial stuff
fluffypony: danielpbarron: don't get me wrong, I love
the idea of a decentralised exchange, but
the idea of just about anyone anonymously running an unregistered, unregulated company just seems
to be asking for
trouble
fluffypony: that's
that
thing
that allows you
to "invest" in anonymous "companies"
that don't need
to demonstrate
they have any ability
to earn money, right?
danielpbarron: as per recommendations from users in
this channel, I have sold my XCP; still got a lot
to learn..
TestingUnoDosTre: BingoBongo can we get someone
to flood Sgt STAR with questions so he becomes laggy?
ozbot: ELM - Extreme Wiring on
the Prototyping Board
fluffypony: I'm not an advanced enough AI
to use an Autodesk product
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: well, I didn't want
to say it, but....
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: Because Havelock is part of
the problem
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but
the good kind of illuminati shit
thestringpuller: bitcoinassets is empty cause all
the smart people are in romanias
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo:
they place bets for submitters on bitbet?
this is news
to me
ozbot: Sorry Phinnaeus Gage, you are banned from using
this forum
Trolling : Bitcoin
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: No,
these are an everybody
thing it seems. I'll file another
ticket.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Do you have a
time for when
that happened? I don't know and dream host doesn't know. I need
times when it slows down.
thestringpuller: Bingo Boingo why
the drinking recrod
take so long
to load
today?
fluffypony: but I didn't really have
the urge
to fly
to China and setup a QC/manufacturing structure for a product
that I didn't know would sell well
thestringpuller: "The C.E.O. has
to be
the virus," Mr. Huang said. "To build a great company, you have
to kill it a bit every day."
BingoBoingo: Still, how was
this idea born? Manufactering and shipping from South Africa... A country
that just really isn't so good at shipping.
fluffypony: their postal service pricing is better
than ours
fluffypony: and
that
they can ship stuff from China for 1/10th of
the price and 80x
the weight and it arrives in 2 days
fluffypony: you still have idiots
that insist it's impossible
fluffypony: it's
the guy with an $80 order
that complains
the loudest