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fluffypony: but if I'm donating or not donating am I not making an informed decision/judgement call? am I not picking a side of
the fence on which
to sit (which side may change later) ?
fluffypony: I know - innocent until proven guilty and all
that
fluffypony: danielpbarron: I find myself
torn...I
think
that SR was an interesting endeavour, and I applaud his efforts in providing a platform, but I
think organising six murders is
taking Internet-tough-guy
too far
fluffypony: in which /r/Bitcoin can't decide whether
to support Ross Ulbricht's legal defence because drugs mmmmmkay or vehemently not support it because, you know, he
tried
to have people killed and ran a successful criminal enterprise
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jurov: oh yes, i have
them
cgcardona_: A:"It shouldn’t be
that difficult. My friend is a math genius who previously worked on an algorithm modeled after Google’s PageRank, but it’s still in
the works."
cgcardona_: Q: What has been
the most difficult aspect
to developing a Bitcoin Business review system?
cgcardona_: fluffypony: I
thought
the best line was:
fluffypony: it's like
they're
trying
to make Yelp for Bitcoin
fluffypony: cgcardona_:
that article you linked
to is hilarious
thestringpuller: funny how dead
this channel gets when
the bitcoin illuminati aren't around
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bounce: on
that note, often manufacturers explicitly forbid
to install updates and servicepacks since it might well break
the app. gotta love brittle "engineering" (by certified engineers!) like
that. I don't suppose
there's embedded software consultancy houses
that'll do stress
testing on
the programs
to see
they'll stand up
to such outlandish weirness as running without admin rights and still function after hotfixes get installed and such.
bounce: if I had a choice I'd much prefer my (expensive!) equipment be steered by something unix-y, but if
that's Just
Too Hard for
the people designing
the machinery I'll
take an open source windows drop-in replacement. better for long
term support and all
that
dignork: fluffypony: COBOL, allright, but on way hopefully
they moved from dbase-style
to relational DB, i've seen
this happening in some insurance company
fluffypony: "we've moved
to COBOL
to keep it in line with our other systems"
fluffypony: Convert Banking systems written in MANTIS
to COBOL under CICS using customised conversion
tool and Microfocus Cobol.
fluffypony: so
then you're stuck on unsupported XP for a long
time
till
that layer can get re-written
fluffypony: and
the front-end gets a modern overhaul
fluffypony: I've seen a LOT of LoB apps where
they abstracted
the business logic from
the display/interface
turbo_ac100: ~10 lines in "Here is
the quick workaround: Install DosBox." lol
fluffypony: the only way
to run 16-bit apps in Vista+ is
through a VM
joecool: does it really matter anymore, i
thought steam was going all linux and MS pissed off
the devs with
the windows 8 directx stuf
fluffypony: also some of
those apps may be really old - Windows NT stuff
turbo_ac100: Question for
those companys is: Why not use win7/8
turbo_ac100: hmkay.
There is a good niche for
them already
then.
turbo_ac100: Problem is
they won't be 100% XP anytime soon so it won't even be good enough for most people.
fluffypony: joecool: yeah, we're discussing
the "what for" part of dignork's comment
turbo_ac100: midnightmagic: Yeah
that's why I
think
the
timing is good for ReactOS. Now with XP being axed for
the nth
time.
joecool: i
thought directx code was merged into wine like a year or
two ago
thestringpuller: fluffypony: a slim copy of ReactOS with DirectX working and all
the gunk pulled out would be nice << i've been sayin'
that for years lol
fluffypony: a slim copy of ReactOS with DirectX working and all
the gunk pulled out would be nice
fluffypony: OS X and Linux are not winning in
that space atm
bounce: useful
to boot all sorts of dos diagnostics, flash utilities, whatnot. useful for games.
the odd dos-only application
that's critical
to
the business and irreplacable. and so on. same with reactos, except with a more recent and more widely used application base.
bounce: compare freedos. an unencumbered drop-in replacement for an obsolete proprietary system. what's
the point of
that?
midnightmagic: Maybe
they're going
to
take all
the XP customers who hate anything
that's happened since.
midnightmagic: Are
they planning some kind of XP-like forever-support?
dignork: turbo_ac100: open source windows clone? I have
to admit, I looked at
their source code once, while
trying
to figure out some windows undocumented functionality, but rewriting outdated OS, what for?
thestringpuller: ;;later
tell BingoBoingo how'd you feel about
that movie money ball?
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 hours, 52 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> fluffypony:
That'd be Busch III, first season
there was in 2006
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cgcardona_: oksushi in #css is an OG css ninja. not sure if he still hangs
there
these days.
fluffypony: I'm forced
to dabble, so
the nature of it eludes me
fluffypony: you're right,
there aren't other options
fluffypony: I'm quite jealous - would love
to meet him one day
cgcardona_: I met him at a W3C plenary meeting so it's possible he was extra relaxed in
that environment but he was super kind.
cgcardona_: but
Tim Berners Lee is one of
the most humble people
that I've me who've accomplished
that much IMO
cgcardona_: one of
the most passionate group of people I've ever met but legendary red-tape
cgcardona_: I was in
the HTML5 working group in
the W3C and got
to see
the red
tape up front.
cgcardona_: got `background-color` in CSS and `backgroundColor` in
the DOM
cgcardona_: got
the w3c and ecma standardizing different languages
cgcardona_: the whole web stack is a rube goldberg machine if ever
there were one
fluffypony: cgcardona_: CSS gives me a headache...I'm definitely not a front-end person from
that perspective
cgcardona_: seemingly better seperation of concerns
though you still need
to
toggle classes with JS
to
trigger
them so it's not entirely cleanly seperated.
cgcardona_: makes
the code much more
terse and easier
to mentally digest IMO
cgcardona_: It's pretty sweet
to move
that from JS into CSS
benkay: ;;later
tell bitcoinpete hey didja know
that if you have an avatar.png at
the root of your domain it'll show up on
trilema as your avatar?
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TestingUnoDosTre: There was another person who's bet was submitted at
the same
time as mine. Most likely
them
TestingUnoDosTre: I would rather many more herpers and derpers flock
to
the site so I can
take
their hard earned btc
jurov: kakobrekla: you in
the bar or where?
fluffypony: "Goxcoin would be issued on a one-to-one basis
to
trusted and verified accounts."
Duffer1: i was so offended i shall report
thee
to
the internets police
cazalla: Duffer1: it's
TestingUnoDosTre for sure
fluffypony: ok
that was overly rude, I
take
that back :-P
fluffypony: she's hiding
the privkeys in her snatch
fluffypony: why do
they
think it'll make a difference calling his wife?
ThickAsThieves: "So bitbet joins
the list of sxam sites. Moderators arbitrarily declaring in-time bets as late."
assbot: Voice for
ThickAsThieves extended
to 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing
ThickAsThieves for 30 minutes.
ThickAsThieves: Revelations aside, nothing has changed.
The NSA monitored communications well before Edward Snowden leaked documents
to Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras. It has long had
the power of
the subpoena
to compel a business
to hand over records and documents.
ThickAsThieves: "You probably didn’t stop flying because you have
to go
through airport screeners,
take off your shoes, let your laptop be X-rayed and your luggage possibly rummaged
through by security personnel. You shouldn’t close your business either. Instead, level with your customers,
tell
them what
the government is capable of doing, and allow
them make up
their own minds as
to whether
to do business with you or not.
jurov: (while "cecky" means
tits)
kakobrekla: 11:11.29 ( +jurov ) many ppl atound here write it as "bitcoint" < same here, but 'bitcoind' but
they are not meanin
the daemon.